Outlook for the US coastline in next 2 decades is scary

This is the general tropical discussion area. Anyone can take their shot at predicting a storms path.

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Forum rules

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K. For official information, please refer to products from the National Hurricane Center and National Weather Service.

Help Support Storm2K
Message
Author
User avatar
cycloneye
Admin
Admin
Posts: 146144
Age: 69
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:54 am
Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico

Outlook for the US coastline in next 2 decades is scary

#1 Postby cycloneye » Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:27 pm

http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~jelsner/HTM ... dclim.html

Navigating thru the internet I found this very interesting outlook that was made in june 2001 but it covers from that year on thru 30 years and it shows an active landfall period for the US coasts.If you dont want to read the whole thing scroll down to #7 and there you will see the conclusions about what they think will happen in the next 3 decades.And those who live in Florida may want to look closely at those numbers that are scary when you see them.But one thing is making an outlook and another is in reallity what will happen as many factors as we know come into play and may make that outlook go wrong in many of those years ahead.Any comments about this are welcomed.
Last edited by cycloneye on Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
0 likes   
Visit the Caribbean-Central America Weather Thread where you can find at first post web cams,radars
and observations from Caribbean basin members Click Here

User avatar
MGC
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 5905
Joined: Sun Mar 23, 2003 9:05 pm
Location: Pass Christian MS, or what is left.

#2 Postby MGC » Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:52 pm

Doubt tropical activity remains like it is the next 30 years. We are currently in the middle of a 20 year up cycle in the Atlantic basin. As I figure it, we have another 10 years or so and then we will hit another dry cycle simular to the 70-80 period where there were not as many TC's. Weather runs in cycles and hurricanes have their cycles too......MGC
0 likes   

User avatar
cycloneye
Admin
Admin
Posts: 146144
Age: 69
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:54 am
Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico

#3 Postby cycloneye » Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:16 pm

MGC wrote:Doubt tropical activity remains like it is the next 30 years. We are currently in the middle of a 20 year up cycle in the Atlantic basin. As I figure it, we have another 10 years or so and then we will hit another dry cycle simular to the 70-80 period where there were not as many TC's. Weather runs in cycles and hurricanes have their cycles too......MGC


Actually the active period we are now started in 1995 so we will see more active seasons in the next 15-20 maybe 25 years after that a more less active pattern will come.
0 likes   
Visit the Caribbean-Central America Weather Thread where you can find at first post web cams,radars
and observations from Caribbean basin members Click Here

Guest

#4 Postby Guest » Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:43 pm

cycloneye wrote:
MGC wrote:Doubt tropical activity remains like it is the next 30 years. We are currently in the middle of a 20 year up cycle in the Atlantic basin. As I figure it, we have another 10 years or so and then we will hit another dry cycle simular to the 70-80 period where there were not as many TC's. Weather runs in cycles and hurricanes have their cycles too......MGC


Actually the active period we are now started in 1995 so we will see more active seasons in the next 15-20 maybe 25 years after that a more less active pattern will come.


You are correct sir!

Scary to some but very true.There might be a slow season here & there but from I've read,as a whole,we are in that active cycle which did begin in 95 as cycloneye mentioned & should continue for another 20 years at least if not longer.Similar to the pattern that happened from the 40's through the 60's.
0 likes   

Rainband

#5 Postby Rainband » Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:58 pm

I found the numbers on Florida Interesting. We have been lucky... save Andrew...the question is how long will that luck last??? :eek:
0 likes   

User avatar
wxman57
Moderator-Pro Met
Moderator-Pro Met
Posts: 23011
Age: 67
Joined: Sat Jun 21, 2003 8:06 pm
Location: Houston, TX (southwest)

#6 Postby wxman57 » Tue Mar 30, 2004 8:16 pm

I've done considerable research on hurricane activity in "warm" vs. "cool" Atlatnic SST regimes from 1900-present. The cool regimes typically last about 25 years, but the warm regimes may last a bit longer (perhaps 30-40 years or more). In any case, I actually found that there were slightly MORE named storms during cooler Atlantic SST regimes (very slightly). But the number if INTENSE hurricanes is nearly double during warm Atlantic SST regimes. We've had 32 major hurricanes since 1995 but only 3 have hit the U.S. Climatology says 10 should have hit. We have been very, very luck so far, but the luck just cannot old out.

I can name plenty major hurricanes that hit the U.S. in seasons with 8 or fewer named storms (Audrey, Beulah, Great 1900 Galveston, Andrew, Alicia, Donna and lots more). It's not the number, it's the development patterns and steering patterns that we have to watch for. The last 9 hears has been dominated by a negative NAO regime, resulting in a weaker Bermuda High and more storms turning out to sea. Will this negative NAO continue forever? Nope. The hurricanes will be hitting with much higher frequency in the coming decades. You can count on it.
0 likes   

Guest

#7 Postby Guest » Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:19 pm

Interesting stuff...Thanks wxman57!

& I agree with you 100% when you said its not the #'s but the wx patterns & steering currents which ultimately are the biggest factors in landfalls.Those hurricanes you mentioned are great example of that.

Thats why I could care less when I hear of El Nino or La Nina.In fact, my area gets hit more often in "slower" seasons.
Last edited by Guest on Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
0 likes   

User avatar
mf_dolphin
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 17758
Age: 68
Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2002 2:05 pm
Location: St Petersburg, FL
Contact:

#8 Postby mf_dolphin » Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:23 pm

I just wish everyone would quit mentioning Florida LOL I know the west coast of Florida is totally unprepared. Sooner or later our luck will run out. I just hope I have time to get to Arizona lol
0 likes   

MWatkins
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 2574
Joined: Sat Oct 12, 2002 7:51 pm
Location: SE Florida
Contact:

#9 Postby MWatkins » Tue Mar 30, 2004 11:18 pm

This just in from the Brazilian Met Agency:

"No hurricanes are expected in the Tropical North Atlantic this season...however...12 to 14 brand new never-before-seen-rotating-extratropical-cylones will develop. There will be no need to alert the public."

Shut the board down. There will be nothing to talk about.

MW
0 likes   
Updating on the twitter now: http://www.twitter.com/@watkinstrack

User avatar
vbhoutex
Storm2k Executive
Storm2k Executive
Posts: 29113
Age: 73
Joined: Wed Oct 09, 2002 11:31 pm
Location: Cypress, TX
Contact:

#10 Postby vbhoutex » Tue Mar 30, 2004 11:53 pm

MWatkins wrote:This just in from the Brazilian Met Agency:

"No hurricanes are expected in the Tropical North Atlantic this season...however...12 to 14 brand new never-before-seen-rotating-extratropical-cylones will develop. There will be no need to alert the public."

Shut the board down. There will be nothing to talk about.

MW


:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
0 likes   
Skywarn, C.E.R.T.
Please click below to donate to STORM2K to help with the expenses of keeping the site going:
Image

Guest

#11 Postby Guest » Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:07 am

LOL
:lol:
0 likes   

User avatar
cycloneye
Admin
Admin
Posts: 146144
Age: 69
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:54 am
Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico

#12 Postby cycloneye » Wed Mar 31, 2004 5:35 am

vbhoutex wrote:
MWatkins wrote:This just in from the Brazilian Met Agency:

"No hurricanes are expected in the Tropical North Atlantic this season...however...12 to 14 brand new never-before-seen-rotating-extratropical-cylones will develop. There will be no need to alert the public."

Shut the board down. There will be nothing to talk about.

MW


:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:


Well let's make our forecasts for 2005. :lol:
0 likes   
Visit the Caribbean-Central America Weather Thread where you can find at first post web cams,radars
and observations from Caribbean basin members Click Here


Return to “Talkin' Tropics”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: 7cardinal, Google Adsense [Bot], Hurricaneman, IcyTundra, Pelicane, Stratton23 and 65 guests