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Bush does a reversal and now vote is next week

#1 Postby cycloneye » Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:31 am

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA6XNAT8DD.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,80974,00.html

The US-UK will go into next week to call for a vote of the security council and in my opinion Bush is trying to help his best friend Tony Blair as he is in great trouble in the UK with his own party.
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every day of delay gets him in worse trouble

#2 Postby rainstorm » Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:43 am

GET THE JOB DONE ALREADY!!! blair will be in good shape when the war is fought and won. and it will be won in a few days. delay simply allows more and more opposition to build. i mentioned long ago that this was the french strategy all along, and they have been brilliant. in order to counter the french strategy bush simply needs to pull the trigger. also, we need to have a spine. president bush should announce that the us is pulling out of the un unless france has its permanent seat on the security council(and its veto) taken away. we need to finally wise up. we wont do it though. in fact, we will allow france a say so in post war iraq, if there is a war
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#3 Postby M2 » Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:52 am

Reconstruction for post-war Iraq has been estimated around $20 Billion; and we wonder why gas has gone up to $1.92/gallon for regular. That funding has to come from somewhere - - gee, guess who.
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#4 Postby Rob-TheStormChaser » Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:55 am

Come on March 29th! lol
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#5 Postby M2 » Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:03 am

Plus the Arab delegation that was to go to Baghdad for discussions were told by Iraq not to 'visit' at this time.
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#6 Postby bfez1 » Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:05 am

Stall, stall, stall
I am getting disgusted w/the whole ordeal
JMO
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#7 Postby cycloneye » Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:07 am

Rob I dont think war will start at the 29th but if that vote comes next week then it will start between the 22-25 timeframe very close to your date. :D :D :D
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#8 Postby firefighter16 » Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:10 am

nothing will happen if someone doesn't do something about France.
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every delay gives aid and comfort to nkorea

#9 Postby rainstorm » Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:27 am

firefighter16 wrote:nothing will happen if someone doesn't do something about France.


they see us as weak and vacillating. our words mean exactly nothing.
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#10 Postby cycloneye » Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:39 am

I would wish the US to go to war and skip the UN because now Bush has lost some credibility because he said at the news conference last week that the resolution would go for a vote this week.
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#11 Postby sunny shine » Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:44 am

bfez1 wrote:Stall, stall, stall
I am getting disgusted w/the whole ordeal
JMO


I agree!!! The time has come.
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#12 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:45 am

Well, Bush has about as much credibility and honesty as William Jefferson Clinton
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all he has to do is say he accepts france's

#13 Postby rainstorm » Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:47 am

cycloneye wrote:I would wish the US to go to war and skip the UN because now Bush has lost some credibility because he said at the news conference last week that the resolution would go for a vote this week.



decision as final and that he will pull out of the un unless france has its permanent seat on the security council removed. without us and our money the un would be a meaningless bunch of nothing squabbling in geneva or paris. france would change its tune in a second if they thought they would have to pay a price for opposing us
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#14 Postby mf_dolphin » Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:36 am

Derek Ortt wrote:Well, Bush has about as much credibility and honesty as William Jefferson Clinton


Once again you show your remarkable gift for exageration and distortion of the facts. President Bush is bending over backwards to achieve a diplomatic concensus on disarming Iraq. The fact that it's not happening in your timeframe has nothing to do with his honesty or credibility.
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#15 Postby southerngale » Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:40 am

mf_dolphin wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:Well, Bush has about as much credibility and honesty as William Jefferson Clinton


Once again you show your remarkable gift for exageration and distortion of the facts. President Bush is bending over backwards to achieve a diplomatic concensus on disarming Iraq. The fact that it's not happening in your timeframe has nothing to do with his honesty or credibility.


Derek...ROFLOL!!! You ought to do stand-up. :roll:

I don't think I need to say anything more...Marshall said it well.
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well, one thing for sure

#16 Postby rainstorm » Thu Mar 13, 2003 1:06 pm

bill clinton did not beg for un approval for his actions.
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#17 Postby JQ Public » Thu Mar 13, 2003 1:09 pm

lol...one thing we are forgetting in america is the idea of patience...it;ll happen eventually. Personally i think april still.
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#18 Postby sunny shine » Thu Mar 13, 2003 1:10 pm

He is not begging by any means rainstorm. He is simply doing the "right" thing. HAD Bill Clinton done HIS job in the first place then all this would not have come to be. I have debated this in another thread and I am not going to sound like a broken record and say it again in this one.
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i agree it is the right thing

#19 Postby rainstorm » Thu Mar 13, 2003 1:20 pm

sunny shine wrote:He is not begging by any means rainstorm. He is simply doing the "right" thing. HAD Bill Clinton done HIS job in the first place then all this would not have come to be. I have debated this in another thread and I am not going to sound like a broken record and say it again in this one.


but surrendering our security to the un is the wrong thing. imagine if john kennedy had ran to the un in 62 during the cuban missile crisis and asked them to take care of the problem. cuba would have had nuclear missles aimed at us and russia would have seen how weak we were. george bush says our national security is threatened. i agree!! if bush really believes what he says, then just get the job done. unfortunately, the precedent has now been set that we need un approval to act in our national security interests. no matter what happens now, the damage has been done.
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i agree it is the right thing

#20 Postby rainstorm » Thu Mar 13, 2003 1:21 pm

sunny shine wrote:He is not begging by any means rainstorm. He is simply doing the "right" thing. HAD Bill Clinton done HIS job in the first place then all this would not have come to be. I have debated this in another thread and I am not going to sound like a broken record and say it again in this one.


but surrendering our security to the un is the wrong thing. imagine if john kennedy had ran to the un in 62 during the cuban missile crisis and asked them to take care of the problem. cuba would have had nuclear missles aimed at us and russia would have seen how weak we were. george bush says our national security is threatened. i agree!! if bush really believes what he says, then just get the job done. unfortunately, the precedent has now been set that we need un approval to act in our national security interests. no matter what happens now, the damage has been done.
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