I'm sorry but my friend is not an automated reporting weather station and would have taken pics But do you honestly think that you could see very light flurries with a 20mph breeze after dark with a Nokia 3650 cellphone/camera ? There was precip in your area at that time so I don't know why you find it hard to believe that there were flurries and some reports of light snow . North AL even had reports of snow for a good 3+ hours. On my way into work this morning I saw rain and then sleet bounce off the windshield of my car and i'm alot further south then you are .
Once again i'm sorry that you missed the Flakes in MS yesterday .
SNOWING NOW IN MERIDIAN MS!!!
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THERE WEREN'T ANY HERE.
Ok now to the SLEET. Take a look at this:
http://radar.accuweather.com/adcbin/pub ... xsite=KMOB
Half of that radar imagry you showed was a composite with false echos. Zoom in and you see that not much is there at all.
There weren't any flakes here, and as to your friend with 20mph winds and the like I doubt if he was telling the truth. I had an old friend in high school that used to lie through his teeth. One day he claimed he drove through the middle of a tornado - and needless to say some people actually believed him...
North AL (Muscle Shoals reported a bit of snow) is a LONG way away from Mobile. They get wrap around flurries a lot. This time of year they get flurries almost every week.
The obs say no, the radar returns say no, the temperatures and conditions say no, and there were no official reports of any of it.
It didn't happen here. Period.
Ok now to the SLEET. Take a look at this:
http://radar.accuweather.com/adcbin/pub ... xsite=KMOB
Half of that radar imagry you showed was a composite with false echos. Zoom in and you see that not much is there at all.
There weren't any flakes here, and as to your friend with 20mph winds and the like I doubt if he was telling the truth. I had an old friend in high school that used to lie through his teeth. One day he claimed he drove through the middle of a tornado - and needless to say some people actually believed him...
North AL (Muscle Shoals reported a bit of snow) is a LONG way away from Mobile. They get wrap around flurries a lot. This time of year they get flurries almost every week.
The obs say no, the radar returns say no, the temperatures and conditions say no, and there were no official reports of any of it.
It didn't happen here. Period.
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Oh yes and I should also tell you how reports like that usually get started. Someone sees a mistake in the ob on the weather then thinks they must've seen it and they really didn't - they just imagine things.
Then they ask their relatives and friends if they saw any of it. They initially say no, but they go tell their relatvies and neighbors about it. Then what you end up having is several hundred false witnesses to an observation that was a mistake in the first place.
Newton is WEST of us. By the time it was dark (the ob was reported JUST after sunset) the rain sheild had moved to MERIDIAN's east. Now Newton is West of us. How could the precip be over to the east then magically start up later and further west?
Now there were a few bands of flurries after the front but ONLY in places as far north as Little Rock, Memphis, Muscle Shoals, Nashville, etc.
I live here. You don't. It didn't happen. Period.
Then they ask their relatives and friends if they saw any of it. They initially say no, but they go tell their relatvies and neighbors about it. Then what you end up having is several hundred false witnesses to an observation that was a mistake in the first place.
Newton is WEST of us. By the time it was dark (the ob was reported JUST after sunset) the rain sheild had moved to MERIDIAN's east. Now Newton is West of us. How could the precip be over to the east then magically start up later and further west?
Now there were a few bands of flurries after the front but ONLY in places as far north as Little Rock, Memphis, Muscle Shoals, Nashville, etc.
I live here. You don't. It didn't happen. Period.
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False returns don't cause the street to be wet and the street was very wet this morning and I turned on my wipers twice . Then it stoped and saw sleet right before 110/ I65 split .
It was cold enough your area last night for frozen stuff and there was precip in your area at the time. Once again I am sorry that you missed it .
I'm going to now look at some radar archives and try to post some pics this afternoon.
It was cold enough your area last night for frozen stuff and there was precip in your area at the time. Once again I am sorry that you missed it .
I'm going to now look at some radar archives and try to post some pics this afternoon.
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It was cold enough your area last night for frozen stuff and there was precip in your area at the time. Once again I am sorry that you missed it .
It wasn't cold enough for snow or sleet here last night bub.
The ground was wet because it had RAINED in Mobile. Yes. Rain makes the ground wet. Mobile had obs of heavy rain in the past 24 hours. That will make the ground wet.
As to the sleet. Find me an official photograph and observation from a reporting station. That will prove that there might have been sleet in Mobile.
However that is irrelavent to the FACT that there was no snow here. At all.
Here is Meridian. Mobile is not Meridian. Newton is not Meridian. Jackson is not Meridian. Muscle Shoals is not Meridian.
I don't know why you think you know everything about this. You don't. You were not here. You would not know.
Your friend was in Newton. Your friend could have lied, seen things, imagined things, etc. What is more likely? A report of snow when no other station (or person) reports it in the area, and the only thing even close to it is a false signal in a weather station that was corrected 10 minutes after the 'event'? Some how getting full blown light snow when the dewpoints and temperatures are all well above freezing? Reports of precip when there was NOTHING on the local radar in our area?
Or is it far more likely that it didn't happen. Seems to me the odds are stacked against it in the first place.
It didn't happen. Don't apologize for something that didn't happen.
I really don't wish to argue this any more. Mods, please close this thread.
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Grr one more point. 6:43 is just after sunset. It is also when everything is fully dark.
Time/Sunrise/Sunset:
Actual Time 6:57 AM CST 5:04 PM CST
Civil Twilight 6:30 AM CST 5:31 PM CST
Nautical Twilight 5:59 AM CST 6:01 PM CST
Astronomical Twilight 5:29 AM CST 6:31 PM CST
I don't wish to argue this anymore. It's rediculous. The facts are there. No snow. End of case.
I AM IN MERIDIAN FOR CHRISTS SAKE.
I think I would know better than your remote sensor data. So please be quiet about this.
Time/Sunrise/Sunset:
Actual Time 6:57 AM CST 5:04 PM CST
Civil Twilight 6:30 AM CST 5:31 PM CST
Nautical Twilight 5:59 AM CST 6:01 PM CST
Astronomical Twilight 5:29 AM CST 6:31 PM CST
I don't wish to argue this anymore. It's rediculous. The facts are there. No snow. End of case.
I AM IN MERIDIAN FOR CHRISTS SAKE.
I think I would know better than your remote sensor data. So please be quiet about this.
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wrkh99
Once again i'm sorry that you missed the snow . My friend is a trained storm spotter so I trust what he saw last night. The temp was 34 to35 and the dewpoint 32 so please don't tell me that it wasn't possible that he saw a few flakes.
There was sleet in Mobile and Baldwin Counties this morning and there have been several reports of it .
Admit that you are wrong and move on . I'm done here !
There was sleet in Mobile and Baldwin Counties this morning and there have been several reports of it .
Admit that you are wrong and move on . I'm done here !
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DUDE
The argument is that there was no snow in MERIDIAN
Mer-i-di-an
THAT IS NOT NEWTON.
THAT IS NOT MOBILE.
THAT IS NOT BALDWIN COUNTY.
PLEASE WOULD YOU GET REAL?
You have NO WITNESSES in Meridian. You have no proof.
Case closed. Don't apologize for this stupid crap. Although it is funny how you build up this guy over time. First he's a friend who couldn't take a camera. Next he's a friend who could have taken a picture over a bleeding cell phone to you even though you said you didn't talk to him last night, but apparently you talked to him 5 minutes ago? Ok, he's a storm spotter now... yet he doesn't have a camera? Oh wait, the only camera he has is a Nokia Cell Phone?
How CONVENIENT that you just keep tacking on things to this story. If he's a storm spotter, he'd make an official report. There were NONE sent in last night. I keep tabs of the spotter reports.
Not to mention the fact that you honestly think Newton is remotely close. It's about 30 miles away from Meridian. It's in a different county for christ's sake.
Now how much do you want to bet you're going to tack on one more thing about Mobile or Newton. "D00d" that is NOT MERIDIAN.
*hands you your sign*
The argument is that there was no snow in MERIDIAN
Mer-i-di-an
THAT IS NOT NEWTON.
THAT IS NOT MOBILE.
THAT IS NOT BALDWIN COUNTY.
PLEASE WOULD YOU GET REAL?
You have NO WITNESSES in Meridian. You have no proof.
Case closed. Don't apologize for this stupid crap. Although it is funny how you build up this guy over time. First he's a friend who couldn't take a camera. Next he's a friend who could have taken a picture over a bleeding cell phone to you even though you said you didn't talk to him last night, but apparently you talked to him 5 minutes ago? Ok, he's a storm spotter now... yet he doesn't have a camera? Oh wait, the only camera he has is a Nokia Cell Phone?
How CONVENIENT that you just keep tacking on things to this story. If he's a storm spotter, he'd make an official report. There were NONE sent in last night. I keep tabs of the spotter reports.
Not to mention the fact that you honestly think Newton is remotely close. It's about 30 miles away from Meridian. It's in a different county for christ's sake.
Now how much do you want to bet you're going to tack on one more thing about Mobile or Newton. "D00d" that is NOT MERIDIAN.
*hands you your sign*
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wrkh99
Now how much do you want to bet you're going to tack on one more thing about Mobile or Newton. "D00d" that is NOT MERIDIAN.
What are we in preschool again and that you have to get the last word in even after you said that you were done posting in this thread 3 post ago
Just cause you didn't see the snow doesn't mean that it wasn't snowing 1/2 mile down the road. I guess that you have never been to the great lakes where you can go from no snow to white out conditions in no time .
Move on go out side and enjoy the weather cause it's the only weather that you've got .
Do I need to drive to Meridian Thursday night and videotape some sleet and snow for you. Or would you scream that my tapes are fake ?
What are we in preschool again and that you have to get the last word in even after you said that you were done posting in this thread 3 post ago
Just cause you didn't see the snow doesn't mean that it wasn't snowing 1/2 mile down the road. I guess that you have never been to the great lakes where you can go from no snow to white out conditions in no time .
Move on go out side and enjoy the weather cause it's the only weather that you've got .
Do I need to drive to Meridian Thursday night and videotape some sleet and snow for you. Or would you scream that my tapes are fake ?
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I just want to tack on one thing. Valkhorn in one of his posts said, "Look at the PINK near MACON, GA: Macon is at 41 degrees. That is a little warm for sleet. I don't care that the dewpoint is at 28."
I strongly disagree with that post, last year in Trussville, Alabama, on 2 occasions we saw sleet while temperatures were in the low 50's. One time it was 50, the other time 52. Dew points then were I believe in the low 20's. I don't like those snow/ice/rain maps anyway, but I bet that was in fact sleet, if it was reaching the ground.
I strongly disagree with that post, last year in Trussville, Alabama, on 2 occasions we saw sleet while temperatures were in the low 50's. One time it was 50, the other time 52. Dew points then were I believe in the low 20's. I don't like those snow/ice/rain maps anyway, but I bet that was in fact sleet, if it was reaching the ground.
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