Anyone who thinks its NOT getting cold needs a headcheck

[Stormchaser16]

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... 6_066l.gif

That looks ANYTHING BUT cold to me......
Around -10 for 850 thermals in DC, thats low to mid 20's right there folks. That is pretty dang cold. In fact expect the cold air to hit smack in the face tommorow with temps probably falling into the mid or lower 30's for the DC area with 20's further north.

In the long rub the day 10EC has 850 thermals of -24C for DC, can you say lower teens??????

O thats right... Jeb says there is no cold air.... oh well, guess it moderated from single digits to lower teens, o god!

[Anonymous]

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/eta/00/images/eta_p06_066l.gif

That looks ANYTHING BUT cold to me......
Around -10 for 850 thermals in DC, thats low to mid 20's right there folks. That is pretty dang cold. In fact expect the cold air to hit smack in the face tommorow with temps probably falling into the mid or lower 30's for the DC area with 20's further north.

In the long rub the day 10EC has 850 thermals of -24C for DC, can you say lower teens??????

O thats right... Jeb says there is no cold air.... oh well, guess it moderated from single digits to lower teens, o god!

-Low to mid 20s.

Are these temps highs or lows? If these are highs then that's cool.






-........temps probably falling into the mid or lower 30's for the DC area with 20's further north.

Are those highs? Will our high tomorrow only be in the mid 30s and be falling all day? If so I'll be kinda happy with it but I wanted highs in the low/mid 20s. Since this is SUCH a COLD "Arctic Front" then I'd think that Woodbridge VA would see highs in the TEENS!!!!






-Can you say lower teens??????

Are these temps high temperatures? If so, and they verify, I will be very content!! That will cause water main breaks!!!! I will be sliding around during my jebwalks!!






It's JANUARY and its time for brutal cold. I have been reading all the posts about frigid Arctic Fronts..........................okay folks why is it 40 degrees at 1036 pm in Woodbridge tonight?

For heck's sake, I've experienced a cool temperature range of 32/22 already this winter, LAST MONTH!!!

Ha Ha Ha Ha December colder than January and January is already averaging much warmer than normal!!!

Arctic Surge!!! What Arctic Surge?!!!! Ha ha ha ha LOL LOL LOL

Let me know if it ever gets here!!!! That damn front has already modified! It NEVER had a chance!!

Arctic Front/ Arctic Surge!!! Arctic who?

ha ha ha ha ha ha LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Ha Ha We are already forecast to hit 44 degrees tomorrow!!!

44 is our normal high temp for Jan 6!!!!

Arctic airmass heading south!!!!! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!


-A very bitter Jeb (not bitter cold either)......bitter because the arctic airmass of recent fame has already modified to crap.........

[Stormchaser16]

High temps day 10 on the Euro yes, and yes temperatures tommorow according to the ETA are in the 30's for highs as far as i can make it out.

[FLguy]

jeb i HIGHLY suggest that you go back through the posts by myself...DT...don...and SF ... listen to what we haven been saying...and then you will understand.

[wx247]

ummm... Jeb... our low here tonight is expected to be ZERO. If that isn't cold and artic I don't know what is.

[Guest]

Ok enough of this BS. I think Jeb and everyone else gets the point now. Ok.
I think i have been very patient here but this is getting old fast. Next post i see like this i am deleting!!!! Sorry but im tired of seeing nothing but these kinds of post today and last night which yea i was no help but like i said i think Him and everyone else gets the point now so let please drop it ok.

Kidding around and such is one thing or even a reminder such as was the case last night. But the endless persuit and now endless post about this is just as old now as well.........

And jeb please do like the others said and go look at those threads . The cold artic air is comming my friend! Believe it!

[Stormchaser16]

Exactly.... when its snowing in MS you KNOW you are getting cold air. All you have to do is take a look at the Gl region, the SE and the MW and SEE for yourself the cold air. Let's face it buddy, you live in VA, if you get a high temp of 0, or heck even a high temp in the lower teens like you are saying you want, then the world is ending. That is about 40 degrees below average. That would mean that in relative terms parts of maine would need to be placed at around -50,60 or likely -70 degrees, and Northern new england would need to be around the same. Heck, my house would sit at -10 or -20 and that just does NOT happen. Move to Maine if you are going to complain about not getting high temperatures in the single digits pal.

Your posts about how it has already modified should be deleted to save you the embarassment you are going to face come time when your facing colder temperatures. We are right on schedule for temperatures to continue the downward spiral, and if you dont see it then you seriously need to consider learning something, anything about the weather.

[rainstorm]

it doesnt look all that cold. certainly not news worthy. tues-fri will be below normal, but hardly bitter.

[Stormchaser16]

JX could you please not post these one liner things without any backup in any of my threads anymore?

[wx247]

short sweet and to the point... that is rainstorm.

[Anonymous]

it doesnt look all that cold. certainly not news worthy. tues-fri will be below normal, but hardly bitter.

That is the point I have been trying to make. The "arctic air" has been GROSSLY OVERRATED. It is super-cold in the northern Plains, upper Midwest and the upper Northeast..........but I do not think that this is the Mid Atlantic's or the Southeast's winter for real cold and snow. It'll just be too mild, many so-called arctic fronts will modify before they even approach my part of the country. Too bad this pattern isn't like 1982 or especially January 1985. It's a crying shame...........


JEB

[FLguy]

remember alot of this is compared to average. so while someone in VA (like JEB) is thinking...hey its only in the lower or mid 30s...for daytime highs...thats actually a very impressive deviation from normal.

take for example the AVG high in dale city/woodbridge this time of year...which as jeb stated is around 44F. now if one has highs of 30-35 that is the better part of 9-14 degrees below the normal.

so while this may not be the arctic outbreak of the century for the mid-atlantic and northeast. it is nothing to brush off as insignificant either. and to get highs like that in the coastal mid-atlantic with no snowpack is impressive as well.

this also can relate to the thinking that "if its not happening at my house its not really happening at all" as the cold air oming down is very impressive and there are areas across the potomac highlands and shenandoah vly that will not get out of the teens at some point during this cold snap. but its all a matter of the relationship between whats normal for your location and the deviations from that normal which measure the true depth of the airmass.

[Guest]

Dam Jeb.........Hey i tried but dude your on your own now. I cannot believe your gonna argue with the majority of the board here on this? WTF?

[PTrackerLA]

Jeb I suggest you move to Minnesota or somewhere way up north where they actually get the temps you talk about.

[bkhusky2]

I see the cold perfectly here, normal highs are about 52 here, and I won't climb out of the 30's tomorrow, normal lows are around freezing and I could see middle teens in a few days. Even if you did get missed, it's not like you are the entire country. (which you didn't get missed anyhow)

[verycoolnin]

I think some peoples points are that the Weather Channel isn't predicting anything too cold for the east. NWS predicted pretty cold weather but has now lightened up on that a few degrees. It's going to be cold and it looks like it will become ever more cold after next monday for the east.

[Anonymous]

Exactly.... when its snowing in MS you KNOW you are getting cold air. All you have to do is take a look at the Gl region, the SE and the MW and SEE for yourself the cold air. Let's face it buddy, you live in VA, if you get a high temp of 0, or heck even a high temp in the lower teens like you are saying you want, then the world is ending. That is about 40 degrees below average. That would mean that in relative terms parts of maine would need to be placed at around -50,60 or likely -70 degrees, and Northern new england would need to be around the same. Heck, my house would sit at -10 or -20 and that just does NOT happen. Move to Maine if you are going to complain about not getting high temperatures in the single digits pal.

Your posts about how it has already modified should be deleted to save you the embarassment you are going to face come time when your facing colder temperatures. We are right on schedule for temperatures to continue the downward spiral, and if you dont see it then you seriously need to consider learning something, anything about the weather.

1. You are right I need to move north.

2. You are right I need to seriously learn about weather.

3. If it DOES get much colder I won't be embarrassed, I will be very high emotionally because I will be outside conducting jebwalks and I will be blasting Christian music over my CD headphones and getting very excited about the cold air. If there are water-main breaks I will be sliding on the ice.

4. January 21 1985. Woodbridge VA hit 2 degrees above zero and had a low of -14 degrees from an Arctic Front. That was a true arctic front, not this sorry excuse for an arctic front we are experiencing.

5. You stated, "Let's face it buddy, you live in VA, if you get a high temp of 0, or heck even a high temp in the lower teens like you are saying you want, then the world is ending. That is about 40 degrees below average. That would mean that in relative terms parts of maine would need to be placed at around -50,60 or likely -70 degrees, and Northern new england would need to be around the same. Heck, my house would sit at -10 or -20 and that just does NOT happen."
I would indeed be very happy and pleased if Maine was -70 degrees, and your house was also at -20 degrees, so that I can have highs around zero degrees and lows to negative 30 degrees.
That is the implacable horrific reality about who I am: I want ferociously cold, horrifically snowy weather. I pray for 36 to 48 inches of snow every day, for 36 to 48 inches of snow to fall in one storm because I would enjoy such a storm's effect on N VA. That is exactly how I am; and I will never change. I am in middle age, and I am showing no inclination to alter my ways. I will continue to worship what amounts to horrific winter weather with absolutely NO consideration for anything else. Why should I? If people live in a region and the temps dip to 70 degrees below norms, they should have been prepared. If not then too bad; that's survival of the fittest. That's Darwinian selection in action. Yes I am as brutal as a North Slope winter, probably even worse. I won't bat a frozen eyelash and I'll sleep like a baby at night. Hey those unfortunate b@stards should have been living in Death Valley. Its just too bad and I will be laughing. I worship excessively Siberian temps with high winds and blinding snow; I'll be at home in winter conditions that would kill most frickin' men in minutes. I will never change and you can count on me to pray for horrifically worsening winter weather even when the situation calls for the very opposite. Not only have I not learned squat about weather, I never learned the meaning of the word Stop, and I hope that I never do, ever.

Whatever it takes to enjoy my frigid horrific weather, even if your house must be at 100 below zero for me to realize my life's dream, than that's exactly what I want.

We have had highs near +2 degrees before, and the world was not going to end, and I don't think it was -70 in Maine, but if that's what it takes for me to have my precious winter weather, then that's EXACTLY what I want. There are no two ways about it.


Keep on predicting an Arctic Outbreak. Woodbridge VA will keep on having highs in the upper 30s and low/mid 40s, and rain after rain.

I will keep on laughing at you and all the other forecasters everywhere that keep on with their preposterous predictions of an "Arctic Blast".

Sure, it's going to be oh so cold in the northern Plains and upper Northeastern states, but the fronts will keep on modifying, as fronts do in the CONUS, and you'll keep on predicting arctic outbreaks and big snowstorms that are supposed to plaster the Mid Atlantic with heavy snow. We'll keep on with preposterous highs near 44 and lows in the 30s and rain.

And, I'll make fun of you and all the other forecasters into perpetuity.
If I'm wrong and I get my precious 12 degree highs and lows to -9 degrees, with dewpoints to -19 and strong winds and my 36 to 48 inches of snow in one storm and it devastates the N VA region, then I won't be embarrassed at all. Because all I live for in winter is extremely severe cold and horrifically deep, drifting snows. And I will never, ever change, no matter what and no matter what or who is at stake.



Jeb-Absolutely Uncompromising in my Views concerning severe winter weather----and I hope I NEVER change.

[ALhurricane]

Here is where the real problem lies Jeb..

You apparently are not rooted in any sense of reality. If you think every system is going to bring you RECORD breaking cold, then you will continue to live in fantasy land. It does not have to be record breaking to be classified arctic cold. Now just because you don't accept that as fact does not make it false.

I honestly don't understand what you are trying to prove and maybe I am appeasing you by replying to this message. At the same time, as a degreed meteorologist, I feel a sense of duty to back up my colleagues and those that are highly skilled in meteorology even if they don't have a degree.

Guys like DT, Flguy, SF, and others have nailed this event for exactly what it is. If you can't accept that because it didn't shatter a record in your hometown, then that is just too bad.

[FLguy]

Here is where the real problem lies Jeb..

You apparently are not rooted in any sense of reality. If you think every system is going to bring you RECORD breaking cold, then you will continue to live in fantasy land. It does not have to be record breaking to be classified arctic cold. Now just because you don't accept that as fact does not make it false.

I honestly don't understand what you are trying to prove and maybe I am appeasing you by replying to this message. At the same time, as a degreed meteorologist, I feel a sense of duty to back up my colleagues and those that are highly skilled in meteorology even if they don't have a degree.

Guys like DT, Flguy, SF, and others have nailed this event for exactly what it is. If you can't accept that because it didn't shatter a record in your hometown, then that is just too bad.

thanks for the backing...and also congrats on your new position with NWS!!

[Anonymous]

Here is where the real problem lies Jeb..

You apparently are not rooted in any sense of reality. If you think every system is going to bring you RECORD breaking cold, then you will continue to live in fantasy land. It does not have to be record breaking to be classified arctic cold. Now just because you don't accept that as fact does not make it false.

I honestly don't understand what you are trying to prove and maybe I am appeasing you by replying to this message. At the same time, as a degreed meteorologist, I feel a sense of duty to back up my colleagues and those that are highly skilled in meteorology even if they don't have a degree.

Guys like DT, Flguy, SF, and others have nailed this event for exactly what it is. If you can't accept that because it didn't shatter a record in your hometown, then that is just too bad.

I see what you are saying, ALhurricane. It's just that it is so frustrating to see so many places in the South at temperature levels colder than what we are at. Sure I know very few weather systems are going to bring N VA record low temps. Sure I need a life. Yeah, I probably need one lol.

It's just that its hard to understand why other parts of the CONUS have to be so much colder than we are. There are parts of the South that are colder than our current 39 degrees. Yeah I can't believe we are actually down to 39 degrees.

Oh well, maybe the Mid Atlantic will be the mild spot for the winter.......all I know is, it's been fairly mild here, and we are struggling to get into the 30s for LOWS tonight.


JEB