Midwest/Ohio Valley SnowStorm Discussion and Map

[Anonymous]

By Late Saturday, a low pressure will be centered somewhere over Oklahoma. At 60 hours, the 12z ETA has precip. falling as rain over the Ohio Valley, with a low over the Texas Panhandle. The freezing line runs right through the Center of the Ohio Valley. The GFS is quite similar, except for having the freezing line somewhat farther north, which can be expected on the GFS. At hour 66, the Eta has precip. falling as liquid over much of the Ohio Valley, with the freezing line laying down in Northern Indiana to just North of St. Louis. Some areas could begin to see some frozen precip, or a period of sleet or freezing rain before changing to rain? The GFS shows the freezing line much farther north from Northern Missouri to the Indiana/Michigan border. By hour 72, the models begin to diverge greatly, with the GFS indicating very heavy rain falling over parts of the Ohio Valley, and snow beginning to fall over Northern Missouri and Southern Iowa. The GFS has a low across Southern Missouri. The ETA on the other hand has a low over Northern Arkansas with lighter precip. falling, with almost all of it falling as rain at this time as temperatures over Indiana and Illinois begin to warm, changing any freezing rain and sleet over to all rain. By hour 78, the GFS has heavy snow falling Northeastern Missouri, Eastern Iowa, Southern Wisconsin to Western Illinois. The GFS has a low over Eastern Illinois with heavy rain falling in the warm sector. The ETA is colder farther south, and has snow falling over Northern Illinois and Northern Missouri into parts of Southeast Iowa. The ETA has much lighter amounts of rainfall in the warm sector. The GFS has a low over Northern Ohio by hour 84, with snow falling over Michigan. The ETA has a low over the Ohio River with heavy snow continuing to fall over Chicago, and Northern Illinois.

The GEM by hour 54 has a low over the Texas Panhandle as well. The GEM tracks a low into Missouri and into Southern Indiana along the Ohio River and then Northeast into Northern Ohio. The GEM is somewhat slower with the tracking of the low. The GEM looks similar to the ETA and does show a big hit for parts of Northern Illinois.

[stormraiser]

What about NE Ohio?

[Anonymous]

Looks about right.................The kind of "winter" the US will be experiencing this "winter", will mean the upper Midwest should enjoy ample snows. The milder weather to the south will help storms develop snow farther north. Most normal winters, this is usually the case folks........


-JEB

[Stormsfury]

This system is "bearing" potential for areas that have been getting screwed the last few years ...

SE IA (StormCrazyIowan, take notice), Northern IL (Chicago)

ETA/GFS 12z QPF's are spitting out 0.25"-0.50" liquid (form of all snow).

SF

[Anonymous]

I don't want a "normal winter", I want "my" winter where I get dumped on like last winter. I don't care about the Midwest, I care about the Northeast!!!!!!!!!!

I have gotten 4, well not even, I just say that so I can feel better about this winter, all i'm asking for is a seasonal total for New Jersey of 25-35 inches, is that to much to ask?

Sorry about the Midwest thing, but I don't know what I am going to do if I don't see snow any time soon.

Better luck next winter I guess, for me any way.

[Anonymous]

This system is "bearing" potential for areas that have been getting screwed the last few years ...

SE IA (StormCrazyIowan, take notice), Northern IL (Chicago)

ETA/GFS 12z QPF's are spitting out 0.25"-0.50" liquid (form of all snow).

SF

Indeed SF, last winter when MA was getting a lot of weather, the places farther north such as Wisconsin were really crying for lack of weather.

This "winter" looks to pan out as more of a 'classical' northern snow winter for those locales that sorta missed out last winter. My mild weather here will be the moisture source that the more northerly-located states will draw upon during many a major winter storm event.

This "winter" really reminds me of the times I went up to Palatine Illinois to visit my grandmother and I wondered after the highs in the 20s they had up there. Well I'll enjoy a touch of the 'old days nostalgia' while I experience our 50s this "winter" and the northern Illinois region gets their 20s and colder with snow, as they well should.

Too bad my grandmother moved to south Florida lol........not that I am bashing Florida, I LOVE Florida's nice beaches:)

I'm kinda lookin' forward to severe wx this upcoming spring.


-JEB

[WEATHERGURU]

What is your take on the possibility for significant snow for Detroit, MI?

[therock1811]

Here's my first call on types...I do agree with Brandon for the most part, except I think there's enough cold air to spill into the Ohio valley and give us a little snow on the backside...nothing major, but still, the potential is there.....but that's JMHO...stay tuned...

[TNSnowbunny]

You know what? I'm use to getting rain, it doesn't bother me anymore. LOL yeah right

[chadtm80]

16 days straight of no rain here in central Florida.. And Highs in the low 80's next few days.. YUK YUK YUK

[Guest]

16 days straight of no rain here in central Florida.. And Highs in the low 80's next few days.. YUK YUK YUK

WoW. No kidding Chad? Thats the SE Ridge for you! . Well in the next couple of weeks as i said in another thread you should begin to cool down even there.

As of yet i have no thoughts on this Midwest/Lakes/OH valley storm as i have not looked at any thing in the last couple of days thanks in part to my rotten computer which i had to redo the whole dam thing. Reformat and all. Will have some thoughts on this in a little bit.

I will say though to watch whatever the trends are because i remember a certain xmas storm showing about this far out and well we know what happend to that!!!!!

[therock1811]

I wondered what was up...wb King...

[roarusdogus]

16 days straight of no rain here in central Florida.. And Highs in the low 80's next few days.. YUK YUK YUK

WoW. No kidding Chad? Thats the SE Ridge for you! . Well in the next couple of weeks as i said in another thread you should begin to cool down even there.

As of yet i have no thoughts on this Midwest/Lakes/OH valley storm as i have not looked at any thing in the last couple of days thanks in part to my rotten computer which i had to redo the whole dam thing. Reformat and all. Will have some thoughts on this in a little bit.

I will say though to watch whatever the trends are because i remember a certain xmas storm showing about this far out and well we know what happend to that!!!!!

There will be plenty of cold air available with this system. That has really been missing the last 3 weeks or so. It makes a huge difference.

[chadtm80]

Good news KOW..