12Z Run. ETA/GFS Next batter up!!!! Wed - Fri System!

[Guest]

Here we are sitting smack dab in the Middle of December and as of right now we are currently see our second major snowstorm in a week in the NE/OH Valley and what does the GFS/ETA show???? Yet ANOTHER BOMB for latter in the week for alot of the same places. Only difference this time will be the inital low in the Plains looks to dump the heavier snows farther north into IA, WI, MO, IL, And MI perhaps.............Then from that a front will slowly move east and a secondary Low will once again develop BUT this time looks to develop farther south and then make another trip up EITHER the Coast of th Eastcoast Or INLAND just east of the Apps and this one should bomb out farther south which IMO (Even though the models arent showing it YET) should provide heavier snows farther west into the OH/TN Valley's then our current system has and or is dumping................This baby looks to become neg tilted down south which should help to pull in added moisture to this area and as well pull the low farther west which the models do show happening as the system gets into the NE But i disagree and think it will do that before it gets that far north mainly because of the way everything looks to be setting up...................Either way it looks to drop a very good amount of snow and yes even some snow looks to be had into the deep south as well. Question is WHERE????? IMHO this system is not looking like 83 but MORE like 1950!!!!!!!!!!

So now let the discussions begin!!!!!!

[Colin]

COOL! Will ABE be affected at all?

[Guest]

Looks like Everyone will be affected from AL North to Eastern Lakes and East to the Eastcoast!

[Colin]

Probably by rain right?

[Stormsfury]

I just saw the 12z ETA while updating my website and it ALSO gets interesting with the secondary development ... the 12z GFS also shows the secondary development, a little far off the coast ... but COULD have some implications for the Carolinas in that timeframe ...

Stay tuned ... it gets interesting ...

SF

[Stormsfury]

What the 12z ETA/GFS are implying IMHO is that a second disturbance will be dropping down BEHIND the cold front and possibly induce cyclogenesis off the Carolina Coast ...

[Playballgt14]

so snows for NE ohio??

[therock1811]

Holy snowmen! A second storm in a row??? Daggone...

[Guest]

Yep i seen that SF. Looks very INTRESTING down your way. 12z shows exactly that. And whats making it intresting for me is how fast this baby blows up and turns very negative pulling this baby into the MA Coast and into the western areas of the NE and then crosses into Canada and just sits there north of Lake Ontario.................Time will tell but my thinking tells me this baby will be alot like 1950 but maybe just slightly east of that monster that hit the apps and the SE in 1950....

[Stormsfury]

Yep i seen that SF. Looks very INTRESTING down your way. 12z shows exactly that. And whats making it intresting for me is how fast this baby blows up and turns very negative pulling this baby into the MA Coast and into the western areas of the NE and then crosses into Canada and just sits there north of Lake Ontario.................Time will tell but my thinking tells me this baby will be alot like 1950 but maybe just slightly east of that monster that hit the apps and the SE in 1950....

Preliminarily speaking (I'm gonna hold off on the rest of the website update to review this development quite strongly ... 'cuz it kinda snuck up and bit me on the butt ... But anyway, can you blame me after working 58 hours last week? Anyway, it's a topsy-turvy looking situation, with the Carolinas colder than New England, if the GFS/ETA/GGEM's idea verifies ... Tonight's ECMWF will be quite interesting in regards to whether we have a consensus or not ... but there are some shades of 1950 on this one ...

SF

[wx247]

Looks like another major player for the East Coast. The wind fields look pretty impressive.

[Anonymous]

What were the snow amounts in the 1950 monster, and what can I expect in Woodbridge?

Can you believe this? Its December for crying out loud!!! It's not even January yet!!!! Hell, its not even Winter yet!!!!!!

What kind of a winter is this gonna be anyway?!!!!

Additionally, I have yet another question...............I am beginning to get the feeling that this winter, while chock-full of storms, is going to feature an admittedly disproportionate number of coast-huggers like today's and inland 'just east of the Blue Ridge' type storms. If I am right, and I am beginning to get the sinking feeling that I am, and it will verify, you, King of Weather, are going to see snow amounts that your part of the country has literally never even heard of since the Americans settled here in the 1700s.

Because of disproportionate amounts of rain over the Mid Atlantic piedmont over this winter due to these types of stormtracks throughout this winter on well into the spring, we are going to see a lot of flooding, here and up and down the entire east coastal Piedmont regions, because of a year already brimful of rain.

My final question to you KOW is, Do you think there will be many of these 'hug-the-coast' and inland runner type lows that will tend to make places like the Carolinas colder than the Downeast Maine because of the storm track? Do you think that these coast-huggers and inland track storms could be the predominant storm track for which the 2003-2004 winter will soon be much remembered for?


Thanks, and enjoy your 30 inches come late this week KOW! It's coming, and I have an ark to build, I already know, The rain's gonna hit hard in Virginia. We're used to it by now, its been happening since November 2001.


-Jeb

[Guest]

The wed Thursday event is RAINSTORM for all of I-95 cities

[Stormsfury]

The wed Thursday event is RAINSTORM for all of I-95 cities

NEG TILT drives strong 850mb WAA straight into New England and the 00z ETA illustrates as warm as +6C temperatures encroaching Southern New England ... I have to agree strongly with DT ...

[StormCrazyIowan]

Hey I can't complain!! 6" and about to add to that in this December...... and what did we see last December?? .01"!! Looks as if my dry winter streak is coming to an end finally, woo hoo!!

Rain/snow mix for me....hopefully pulling 2-4" out of this by the time all is said and done!!

[Stormsfury]

Hey I can't complain!! 6" and about to add to that in this December...... and what did we see last December?? .01"!! Looks as if my dry winter streak is coming to an end finally, woo hoo!!

Rain/snow mix for me....hopefully pulling 2-4" out of this by the time all is said and done!!

This next system looks good for you, Jacki ... and 2"-4" sounds about right ...

SF

[Anonymous]

Like they say, 'When it rains, it pours'. We've had plenty of rain here lately, but we're gonna be running one hell of a surplus by late in the week.




-Waterlogged JEB

[StormCrazyIowan]

So then what is up with local met saying only 1-2" is expected around here? I hope he's wrong....I don't like him anyway!