U.S. Bars War Opponents From Bidding on Work in Iraq

#1 Postby **CaptinCrunch** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 12:39 pm

PARIS (Dec. 10) - France and Germany responded defiantly Wednesday to a U.S. decision to bar their firms from competing for prime contracts to rebuild Iraq, a move which could open a new rift in troubled transatlantic relations.

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#2 Postby **Stephanie** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 12:41 pm

I can understand to a point - but now the President really can't go back to the UN and ask for more financial aid and troops.

Guest · #3 Postby **Guest** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 1:08 pm

I thought that after having resumed freedom in Iraq, US would have give the country back to iraquis...
So you mean now that US decides who can work there?
What a democracy!

#4 Postby **Pburgh** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 1:12 pm

Paolo, do you sit back there and wait for a post to which you can respond with your negative anti-American remarks??? I'm waiting for a nice post from you. Don't keep me waiting!!!!!!!

j · #5 Postby j » Wed Dec 10, 2003 1:13 pm

I'm 100% behind the decision to ban those who couldn't be bothered giving support when it was needed, but are more than willing to line their pockets now that the dirty work has been done.

j · #6 Postby j » Wed Dec 10, 2003 1:15 pm

Pburgh....you might as well pull up a chair and grab some knitting needles.

#7 Postby **Pburgh** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 1:21 pm

ROTFLMAO - Good one j

Lindaloo · #8 Postby **Lindaloo** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 1:22 pm

I second that statement PBurgh! Why should we allow those two defiant countries to make money off of a war they did not want in the first place. We and our allies went in together without their help. Now that the job is done they want to make money? What a joke!!!

stormchazer · #9 Postby **stormchazer** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 4:56 pm

Thanks Pburgh :lol:

To the victors go the spoils. It is the coalitions tax money that is paying for this, so I would be damn that some country who didn't do anything, should step in and grab up the contracts. You should have listened when you had the chance France/Germany/Russia. In Paolo's world, we should invite the Al Qaida in to help with security in Iraq!

:usa :usa :usa :usa :usa

Lindaloo · #10 Postby **Lindaloo** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 6:01 pm

stormchazer wrote:Thanks Pburgh To the victors go the spoils. It is the coalitions tax money that is paying for this, so I would be damn that some country who didn't do anything, should step in and grab up the contracts. You should have listened when you had the chance France/Germany/Russia. In Paolo's world, we should invite the Al Qaida in to help with security in Iraq!

:usa :usa :usa :usa :usa

Well said!!! :vote:

rainstorm · #11 Postby **rainstorm** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 6:13 pm

i dont support bush any longer, but it is a good decision

#12 Postby **wx247** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 6:43 pm

I don't feel that it is a bad thing... but I can just imagine how world opinion is reacting. I agree with Bush on this decision.

mf_dolphin · #13 Postby **mf_dolphin** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 6:49 pm

PaolofromRome wrote:I thought that after having resumed freedom in Iraq, US would have give the country back to iraquis...
So you mean now that US decides who can work there?
What a democracy!

In case you haven't read Paolo, the US is pushing for the Iraqis to assume control of their country as soon as possible. The ruling council isn't ready yet to assume that control. Until then and since we are paying for the reconstruction, we have every right to control who gets the contracts! France, Germany and Russia can take a flying leap! :-)

#14 Postby **streetsoldier** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 6:53 pm

Why should we allow countries that armed and aided the Saddam regime (and got "fat" on kickbacks from UN aid, BTW) to get lucrative contracts from the Iraqi people they conveniently IGNORED before the war?

Not in this lifetime...and Paolo, get a new playbook...yours is running out of steam.

Rainband · #15 Postby **Rainband** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 6:57 pm

PaolofromRome wrote:I thought that after having resumed freedom in Iraq, US would have give the country back to iraquis...
So you mean now that US decides who can work there?
What a democracy!

I think Americans government may be doing something right if not why does your country and for that matter half of the world rely on us :eek:

*sigh*

chadtm80 · #16 Postby **chadtm80** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 7:24 pm

I thought that after having resumed freedom in Iraq, US would have give the country back to iraquis...
So you mean now that US decides who can work there?
What a democracy!

I better not say anymore then that... ah what the heck.. One more for good measure :roll:

Guest · #17 Postby **Guest** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 5:25 am

You're right, I'd better quit posting here since cannot avoid my stomachache to take control.
Again, let me point the difference between being Anti-American and being against a war that the b****y rest of the world disapprove.
I don't give a s***t that France, Germany and Russia cannot be in the party, they are moved by the same motivations Mr Bush is.
I'm ashamed Italy is in the party, I'm proud of the job our guys are doing there, but this time they are invaders, not peacekeepers.
This is a war that take terrorism and 9/11 simply as excuses. Please now avoid me in quoting all those articles and graphics showing how Alqaeda and Saddam are joined together, that applies to at least 50 other countries as well.
Avoid me with all those retorics about giving freedom to a poor people, because again the world is full of people living under bloodstained dictatorships, but nobody moves a finger.
Even the turkey Mr Bush showed in bagdad was a fish... But he touched you didn't he?

Afganistan is back to talibans, did you know that? 2years of war and the result is that warlords and talibans (helped by local population, funny huh?)
have the real control of the country. With the exception of Kabul of course, where 5.000 troops mantain peace over rebuildings, financied by narcodollars (you know, half of Afganistan's GDP/GNP comes from cocaine and opium). Women still go around in their burkas. Karzai is a fish, he has no control at all.
What is making you believing Iraq is different?

Democracy and freedom shall be gained, not imposed.

Lindaloo · #18 Postby **Lindaloo** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 8:27 am

Did you know that France had just aided Saddam and Chirac knew that he would never be paid back. Which is WHY he did not want us to go to war with Iraq.

Hey Paolo... this is just an opinion. Care to back it up with facts!!

How do YOU know that Afghanistan is back in Taliban control. Last I heard we were killing those cockroaches off everyday.

j · #19 Postby j » Thu Dec 11, 2003 8:47 am

I guess payola, we are at the mercy, like you Italians, to make decisions based on what is reported to us. I'm sure you haven't personally visited Kabul to report back, as you have, concerning the "way it really is".

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think here in America, we have a more vested interest in receiving accurate and un-biased reporting from our news organizations. As soon as we Americans see that the news is slanted, one way or another, we demand balanced and fair reporting, and generally are given that. Sure..we have our pockets of Liberal War hating resistance, but we know who they are, and reasonable minds know when we are receiving biased news.

Anyway...that's my polite and fair reply back to you about your old anti war, anti American remarks.

This is my not so polite reply. Why don't you go to Iraq, and join the resistance, so you can kill as many Americans, and your fellow Italians thus satisfying your hatred.

Bye!

stormchazer · #20 Postby **stormchazer** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 9:26 am

Lindaloo wrote:Did you know that France had just aided Saddam and Chirac knew that he would never be paid back. Which is WHY he did not want us to go to war with Iraq.

Hey Paolo... this is just an opinion. Care to back it up with facts!!

How do YOU know that Afghanistan is back in Taliban control. Last I heard we were killing those cockroaches off everyday.

Come now Linda...if Paolo had to use facts, he wouldn't be able to post. Check out the below report from the UN Office for Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs:

http://www.irinnews.org/S_report.asp?ReportID=37863&SelectRegion=Central_Asia

The above article highlights some of the problems facing Afghanistan- Post-Taliban and how things now may be a bit worse then before. What it also points out is hope. During the Taliban it was as good as it was going to get, but now, though there is hardship, there is also optimism. After WWI and WWII it took nearly a decade to rebuild, so 2 years removed from Post-Taliban, one would not expect miracles, especially since the rest of the international community has been timid at best to help. Remember Paolo...it has been 2 decades, not years. First the Russians, then Civil War, then the Taliban fought wars there.

If we used your logic Paolo, we should not have fought Hitler as he transformed Germany into an Economic Power and our bombing leveled Germany. The EU has become a group of timid status quo advocates. If it is not hurting me, I do not care. Besides, France, Russia and Germany found a way to turn a profit on Saddam. At least your government can see the forrest through the trees and has chosen to help. They will have every opportunity to reap the benefits of reconstruction and help us beat the challenges.

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