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Mount Holly Changes shifts and so does forecast!!!

#1 Postby njbeachwx » Fri Dec 05, 2003 7:29 am

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ
713 AM EST FRI DEC 5 2003

GIVEN CURRENT AND EXPECTED PCPN ACCUMS...CHANGING THE ADVY AREA TO A
WINTER STORM WARNING FOR EITHER THIS MORNING OR INTO THE AFTERNOON.
3-6 INCHES CLOSER TO THE SHORE AND 4 TO 8 INCHES FTHR INLAND.

UPDATE WILL FLY AS SOON AS IT CAN BE TYPED UP...AND GRIDS WL BE
TWEAKED EVENTUALLY.

KRAUS
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Re: Mount Holly Changes shifts and so does forecast!!!

#2 Postby Guest » Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:03 am

Dean Ivinio is a bumbling inept fool. Every time he has been on shift when a winter event has come on he has screwed it ip.

EVERY time and that is not an exgaggeration. Bob Kraus comes on shift and 15 min into his shidt he bangs everything up to a warning....

didnt anything change from say 6 am to 715 am that much? NO...
the warning should of been out early this morning....

think of the schools that went open based on this wretched forecast from Mt Holly and the parents who have their kids thinking it was ok to send them to school -- "its going to turn to rain"


njbeachwx wrote:AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ
713 AM EST FRI DEC 5 2003

GIVEN CURRENT AND EXPECTED PCPN ACCUMS...CHANGING THE ADVY AREA TO A
WINTER STORM WARNING FOR EITHER THIS MORNING OR INTO THE AFTERNOON.
3-6 INCHES CLOSER TO THE SHORE AND 4 TO 8 INCHES FTHR INLAND.

UPDATE WILL FLY AS SOON AS IT CAN BE TYPED UP...AND GRIDS WL BE
TWEAKED EVENTUALLY.

KRAUS
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#3 Postby thstorm87 » Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:06 am

So dt, do you agree with these totals the nws are now saying? And are you planning on issuing a 3rd call map?
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#4 Postby wwxman » Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:07 am

Be careful here. The snow has changed to rain in much of SE NJ -- sooner than expected. Alan Casper is playing this storm down big time. Snow to rain in S.Jersey -- a slushy couple of inches maybe tommorow. 4-6" I-95 to Rt 1. 6-10" N of rt 78. He also says the snow stops tonight with "perhaps" a burst tommorow.
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While he may be right...

#5 Postby njbeachwx » Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:34 am

Never been a big fan Alans, and the only forecast I remember him getting was last years big one. I know I am going to pay for this comment. But that is my opinion. :lol:
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Re: While he may be right...

#6 Postby BillyJoe McCallister » Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:46 am

I listen to Allan on the am side, WBUD, I think he has lost his touch. He seems to have lost his manhood, and needs to grow a pair. He lacks conviction, and wavers with every little change. Of all the local mets, he wavers the most. I remember during last years PD storm. Because the snow wasn't moving north fast enough, he was considering lowering his amounts and cutting back on everything. Earlier this week he was whining about weather message boards and how some mets were taking credit for calling the storm earlier than others, etc. Don't know what board or boards he reads. But right away I thought of WWBB.. Dt do you know
allan by chance. Think DT needs to teach him a lesson.
njbeachwx wrote:Never been a big fan Alans, and the only forecast I remember him getting was last years big one. I know I am going to pay for this comment. But that is my opinion. :lol:
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#7 Postby njbeachwx » Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:55 am

Nice! I put a similar post last year on WWBB, and got killed. Thanks you took all the words out of my mouth. Wait I will add this one, Caspar is a tool! :grr:
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#8 Postby BillyJoe McCallister » Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:57 am

Yeah, it better to catch him on the am side, instead of 101.5. On the am side he has more time, and just rumbles on, and gives more of his thoughts. Sometimes thats good, and not so good. It tends to expose his weaknesses
njbeachwx wrote:Nice! I put a similar post last year on WWBB, and got killed. Thanks you took all the words out of my mouth. Wait I will add this one, Caspar is a tool! :grr:
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#9 Postby Guest » Fri Dec 05, 2003 9:08 am

that is NOT the point. THe wsw should of been issued. SURELY you are not saying that b/c it chnages to rain in southern NJ whch of course is NO surprise that means WSW should not have been issued?


wwxman wrote:Be careful here. The snow has changed to rain in much of SE NJ -- sooner than expected. Alan Casper is playing this storm down big time. Snow to rain in S.Jersey -- a slushy couple of inches maybe tommorow. 4-6" I-95 to Rt 1. 6-10" N of rt 78. He also says the snow stops tonight with "perhaps" a burst tommorow.
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#10 Postby JCT777 » Fri Dec 05, 2003 9:15 am

Agreed DT. Mount Holly covers a rather large area - including the northern and western suburbs of PA and also the Lehigh Valley. Those areas definitely should have had a WS Warning issued before 6 AM, to give the area schools a chance to decide whether they want to take the risk of trying to get kids to school & home during some pretty bad travel conditions.
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Good local mets here

#11 Postby george_r_1961 » Fri Dec 05, 2003 10:25 am

Lucky for us we have good local mets at NWS Wakefield VA. Forecast discussions are often lively with a touch of humor...but to the point. They do a good job of handling severe weather events IMO
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#12 Postby Stephanie » Fri Dec 05, 2003 12:13 pm

There were Winter Storm warnings all around us, north and south and we had an "Advisory". What can I say? It's NJ - a day late and a dollar short! The Atlantic City Expressway was a joke! They must've drawn an imaginary line from Hammonton south where they figured there would be no snow at all! It was icy as h*ll! :grr:
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