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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#701 Postby gpsnowman » Wed Dec 10, 2025 10:08 pm


This is sickening. Say goodbye to a lot of snowpack.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#702 Postby Brent » Wed Dec 10, 2025 10:20 pm



I knew we couldn't have a cold December anymore
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#703 Postby Ntxw » Wed Dec 10, 2025 10:26 pm

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I knew we couldn't have a cold December anymore


DFW has not had a below normal December in 12 years. 2013. Not one, and the new averages went up in 2021, which nudged the baseline up and we couldn't even do that.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#704 Postby Golfisnoteasy75 » Wed Dec 10, 2025 10:34 pm

Ntxw wrote:
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I knew we couldn't have a cold December anymore


DFW has not had a below normal December in 12 years. 2013. Not one, and the new averages went up in 2021, which nudged the baseline up and we couldn't even do that.

Ntwx, in all seriousness, what should we watch for that would signal a change moving forward? Im kinda intrigued in the pdo, which has weakened substantially from where it was
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#705 Postby Ntxw » Wed Dec 10, 2025 11:07 pm

Golfisnoteasy75 wrote:
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Brent wrote:
I knew we couldn't have a cold December anymore


DFW has not had a below normal December in 12 years. 2013. Not one, and the new averages went up in 2021, which nudged the baseline up and we couldn't even do that.

Ntwx, in all seriousness, what should we watch for that would signal a change moving forward? Im kinda intrigued in the pdo, which has weakened substantially from where it was


MJO 1/2/3 or fading 7 into cod. -EPO plunge coupled with -AO would really boost confidence. Source is cold we just need delivery teleconnections.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#706 Postby Lagreeneyes03 » Wed Dec 10, 2025 11:10 pm

rwfromkansas wrote:Gary Lezak of the recurring cycle idea seems to be a little depressing, emphasizing the lack of snow over CO, limited deep cold intrusions so far. But, he does indicate that there is a pattern that will produce eventually.


Eventually= always 2 weeks out. LOL
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#707 Postby Brent » Wed Dec 10, 2025 11:44 pm

Heck I heard even the ski resorts are struggling to our northwest. Tahoe way down from normal for sure

Endless snow in Iowa doesn't do us any good
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#708 Postby Stratton23 » Wed Dec 10, 2025 11:53 pm

GFS really wants to retrograde that - WPO ridge over Alaska , presumably that would be a - EPO signature
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#709 Postby Brent » Thu Dec 11, 2025 3:39 am

I see nothing good in time for Christmas right now... Maybe a weak front if we're lucky(im talking like probably still above normal)

Hopefully January will be better
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#710 Postby Stratton23 » Thu Dec 11, 2025 3:56 am

Just looked at overnight ensembles, AO/ EPO are both trending in the right direction, GEFS now goes negative with the AO
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#711 Postby DallasAg » Thu Dec 11, 2025 6:22 am

Brent wrote:Heck I heard even the ski resorts are struggling to our northwest. Tahoe way down from normal for sure

Endless snow in Iowa doesn't do us any good

This is very true. A lot of the Utah and CO resorts had to delay opening this year. My place in Crested Butte is off to a very rough start. Normally by now most of the mountain would be open and they'd be somewhere north of 60" for the season. Instead, we've had one decent snow (this past Saturday) that dumped about a foot and that's been it. Lots of brown in areas, and nothing in the forecast. Maybe the AR that's pummeling the PacNW will eventually ride the flow and make it into the Rockies, but what we really need for good beneficial snows there is a southwest fetch and with the ridge parked where it is that doesn't look likely.

Strange start to the winter in so many areas. Plenty of cold to be had in the right areas, and some folks in a narrow corridor are cashing in on snow. Still early though. And a warm Christmas will be good for the kiddos who get bikes I guess. #brightside.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#712 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Thu Dec 11, 2025 7:50 am

Winter Cancel :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#713 Postby Brent » Thu Dec 11, 2025 7:53 am

It's kind of funny actually that Sunday may be below freezing all day here :lol: we actually haven't had one of those yet... 36 is the coldest high from the 1st so it's very likely the coldest day of the season so far

That and Christmas is 14 days away. It's insane how far away it is and yet everyone including me is convinced of some historic torch like nobody has ever seen
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#714 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:14 am

Stratton23 wrote:But more interesting news is im seeing that the GFS maybe getting an AI version or the AI- GFS becomes available december 17th, thats going to be very interesting to see how it does along side the euro AIFS


Pumped about this. I watch the euro AI very closely. I feel like It does well a bit further out then the physics models.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#715 Postby wxman57 » Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:14 am

Cpv17 wrote:
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Iceresistance wrote:57 has a warm bias in our defense :lol:


Warm bias? That's absolutely false. I can occasionally tolerate a temperature below 85F. Below 80, though, that's freezing!


Curious what you keep the tstat on in the house lol


Last night, we turned it down to 69 so the heater would not come on. Window open about 8" to allow fresh air in (with outside air temperature in the upper 50s and falling to 43 near sunrise). After waking, I turned the thermostat to 73 and started a space heater running in my office with the door closed. The little heater on my desk blows warm air on me and eventually gets the room temperature to about 79-80 degrees (it's up to 76 deg after 1 hour with outdoor temp up to 50). In summer, we keep the thermostat at 78 degrees, and the little heater is stored in my closet. We always open the bedroom window at night if the temperature will drop below about 60 degrees. Otherwise, it's too humid in the house. We even opened it about a half inch when the temperature dropped into the lower teens. At 55-60 degrees, we open both sides of the window fully.

As for the weather around Christmas, the GFS has given up on that fantasy Arctic outbreak and ice event for Texas. Only a weak cold front similar to recent fronts, which matches the ECMWF.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#716 Postby wxman57 » Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:17 am

Ntxw wrote:
Brent wrote:


I knew we couldn't have a cold December anymore


DFW has not had a below normal December in 12 years. 2013. Not one, and the new averages went up in 2021, which nudged the baseline up and we couldn't even do that.


Houston is running 6.2F below normal this December. You're welcome to take some of our cold up there.

https://www.weather.gov/wrh/Climate?wfo=hgx

Oh, and currently, DFW is running 4.9F below normal for the first 10 days of December:

https://www.weather.gov/wrh/Climate?wfo=fwd
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#717 Postby wxman57 » Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:23 am

TeamPlayersBlue wrote:
Stratton23 wrote:But more interesting news is im seeing that the GFS maybe getting an AI version or the AI- GFS becomes available december 17th, thats going to be very interesting to see how it does along side the euro AIFS


Pumped about this. I watch the euro AI very closely. I feel like It does well a bit further out then the physics models.


Well, I hope the EC AIFS is right. It currently has temps in the mid to upper 70s on Christmas day from Houston to D-FW. Operational EC has mid 70s across Texas on Christmas. GFS has upper 70s Houston and lower 50s D-FW. However, every single run of the GFS has a completely different solution at both the surface and aloft for Christmas. The GFS can't handle the fast zonal flow. EC and EC-AIFS are doing better.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#718 Postby Brent » Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:29 am

Now I'm seeing posts about severe weather for Christmas :spam: :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#719 Postby wxman57 » Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:34 am

Brent wrote:Now I'm seeing posts about severe weather for Christmas :spam: :lol:


Someone must be believing one of the runs of the GFS to think there will be severe weather for Christmas. Compare the GFS and EC 500 mb flow for the evening of the 25th. GFS has a trof approaching TX (severe weather producer), while the EC has a ridge planted right over Texas (no significant weather). Euro has been quite consistent in its forecasts.

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https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfs&region=us&pkg=z500_vort&runtime=2025121106&fh=366

ECMWF:
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=ecmwf&region=us&pkg=z500_vort&runtime=2025121100&fh=360
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#720 Postby wxman22 » Thu Dec 11, 2025 10:00 am

Quick shot of cold air this weekend up here before things warm up. With low 20’s for lows Saturday night. May be stuck in the 30’s all day Sunday. The Euro AI shows a high of only 34F Sunday here. :cold:
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