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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Hurricane - Discussion

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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#522 Postby Woofde » Tue Sep 30, 2025 9:39 pm

OuterBanker wrote:Well, it seems the OBX made the national news again tonight. Another condemned five homes washed out to sea today on Hatteras Island.

Wind and waves pounding the shore again. 32 kt winds now at Jennetts pier. Wind advisories gusts to 45 through tomorrow.

Bermuda will have a double strike, yet we probably won’t hear of any real damage.

The reason is simple. Here we build multi-million dollar homes out of sticks.

There they are made of bricks.

The big bad wolf lives just up the street.


Geology plays a large part in that too. A brick house on a barrier island won't hold up when the land beneath it erodes away.
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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#523 Postby emeraldislenc » Tue Sep 30, 2025 9:51 pm

The terrain of Bermuda is much different than the OBX. I think that point has to be made.
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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#524 Postby OuterBanker » Tue Sep 30, 2025 10:06 pm

emeraldislenc wrote:The terrain of Bermuda is much different than the OBX. I think that point has to be made.


It does. There were some hotels here long ago that were made of bricks. They too would wash under. But, they wouldn't wash away.

We are a sand bar. They are a volcanic island.
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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#526 Postby cheezyWXguy » Tue Sep 30, 2025 11:53 pm

Gap in the northern eyewall is about to close
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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#527 Postby ryxn314 » Wed Oct 01, 2025 1:49 am

Imelda looking better and better with each frame. Clouds completely surround the center now. It's entering an area of less shear.
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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#529 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Wed Oct 01, 2025 5:05 am

Woofde wrote:
OuterBanker wrote:Well, it seems the OBX made the national news again tonight. Another condemned five homes washed out to sea today on Hatteras Island.

Wind and waves pounding the shore again. 32 kt winds now at Jennetts pier. Wind advisories gusts to 45 through tomorrow.

Bermuda will have a double strike, yet we probably won’t hear of any real damage.

The reason is simple. Here we build multi-million dollar homes out of sticks.

There they are made of bricks.

The big bad wolf lives just up the street.


Geology plays a large part in that too. A brick house on a barrier island won't hold up when the land beneath it erodes away.


We also have beaches, but we don’t build our houses on them.
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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#531 Postby Kazmit » Wed Oct 01, 2025 6:58 am

Looks like Imelda is deepening at a good clip. The plane just measured 967 mb in the center.
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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#532 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Wed Oct 01, 2025 7:03 am

Kazmit wrote:Looks like Imelda is deepening at a good clip. The plane just measured 967 mb in the center.


If the winds have time to catch up, that pressure would be consistent with a cat 2/3. She may run out of ocean before the winds have time though.
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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#533 Postby ryxn314 » Wed Oct 01, 2025 8:05 am

Is there a possibility Imelda makes it to 115mph to keep the "TS or MH only" streak? That would be remarkable. 4 majors but under 10 tropical storms. :double:
It's looking pretty good this morning
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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#534 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Oct 01, 2025 8:27 am

ryxn314 wrote:Is there a possibility Imelda makes it to 115mph to keep the "TS or MH only" streak? That would be remarkable. 4 majors but under 10 tropical storms. :double:
It's looking pretty good this morning

Probably not. Imelda does look better than it has for most of its existence, but pressure gradient is too loose. A central pressure in the 960s to 970 isn’t going to get the job done.
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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#535 Postby ryxn314 » Wed Oct 01, 2025 8:39 am

cheezyWXguy wrote:
ryxn314 wrote:Is there a possibility Imelda makes it to 115mph to keep the "TS or MH only" streak? That would be remarkable. 4 majors but under 10 tropical storms. :double:
It's looking pretty good this morning

Probably not. Imelda does look better than it has for most of its existence, but pressure gradient is too loose. A central pressure in the 960s to 970 isn’t going to get the job done.

Ah okay that makes sense, cool thought though. I'm just happy we got a hurricane out of it
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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#536 Postby kevin » Wed Oct 01, 2025 8:50 am

Second pass, 964.5 mb extrapolated with 2 kt winds nearby so 964/965 mb. Peak FL winds are 97 kt which support an 85 - 90 kt intensity.
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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#537 Postby Kazmit » Wed Oct 01, 2025 9:03 am

kevin wrote:Second pass, 964.5 mb extrapolated with 2 kt winds nearby so 964/965 mb. Peak FL winds are 97 kt which support an 85 - 90 kt intensity.

Yeah a cat 2 now. Definitely has a chance to make a run for major. Humberto ‘19 did it under similar circumstances.
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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#538 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Oct 01, 2025 9:27 am

Kazmit wrote:
kevin wrote:Second pass, 964.5 mb extrapolated with 2 kt winds nearby so 964/965 mb. Peak FL winds are 97 kt which support an 85 - 90 kt intensity.

Yeah a cat 2 now. Definitely has a chance to make a run for major. Humberto ‘19 did it under similar circumstances.

It’s not out of the question, I don’t think, but it would be a feat to pull off. With the front being involved and convection being shallower, I would think a .85 reduction would fit better here, yielding 80-85kt on 97kt FL wind. If true, we’d need 115-120kt FL winds to justify 100kt, which is gonna be tough unless the pressure gets below 960mb
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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#539 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Wed Oct 01, 2025 9:31 am

Kazmit wrote:
kevin wrote:Second pass, 964.5 mb extrapolated with 2 kt winds nearby so 964/965 mb. Peak FL winds are 97 kt which support an 85 - 90 kt intensity.

Yeah a cat 2 now. Definitely has a chance to make a run for major. Humberto ‘19 did it under similar circumstances.


I agree. People are not expecting a serious storm here.
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