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Re: 2025 EPAC Season

#201 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jun 29, 2025 3:21 pm

Long tracker probably in the cards soon. What a start, the SOI has never really been solidly Nina for a long time now. The warming/WWBs in the far eastern eq Pacific during this past winter season was definitely odd considering.
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Re: 2025 EPAC Season

#202 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 29, 2025 4:19 pm

Ntxw wrote:Long tracker probably in the cards soon. What a start, the SOI has never really been solidly Nina for a long time now. The warming/WWBs in the far eastern eq Pacific during this past winter season was definitely odd considering.


Interesting about the SOI thing. and that may mean the atmosphere is not behaving like a neutral to weak La Niña.
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Re: 2025 EPAC Season

#203 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jun 29, 2025 5:40 pm

What's just as strange is the EPAC outperforming the WPAC.
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Re: 2025 EPAC Season

#204 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jun 29, 2025 5:42 pm

Entering July and the models continue to favor the EPAC heavily. That is surprising.
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Re: 2025 EPAC Season

#205 Postby StormWeather » Sun Jun 29, 2025 5:52 pm

Kingarabian wrote:Entering July and the models continue to favor the EPAC heavily. That is surprising.

This is heavily starting to resemble 2018 in some aspects to a T.

2018 had 6 NS in the EPAC by July 1st (2025 has done the same)
2018 in the WPAC produced a strong typhoon in early July. The models are wanting a strong typhoon as well in the upcoming days in the present (2025)


A bunch of the the EPAC’s six storms in both 2018 and this year 2025 have been short-lived.
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Re: 2025 EPAC Season

#206 Postby StormWeather » Sun Jun 29, 2025 5:54 pm

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Kingarabian wrote:Entering July and the models continue to favor the EPAC heavily. That is surprising.

This is heavily starting to resemble 2018 in some aspects to a T.

2018 had 6 NS in the EPAC by July 1st (2025 has done the same)
2018 in the WPAC produced a strong typhoon in early July. The models are wanting a strong typhoon as well in the upcoming days in the present (2025)


A bunch of the the EPAC’s six storms in both 2018 and this year 2025 have been short-lived.

One difference between 2018 and this year is that 2018 was still in the +PDO era. 2025 is in the current -PDO era.
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Re: 2025 EPAC Season

#207 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 29, 2025 6:49 pm

South of Southwestern Mexico:
An area of low pressure could form several hundred miles offshore of
southwestern Mexico late this week. Some gradual development of this
system is possible thereafter while it moves generally
west-northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...low...20 percent.
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Re: 2025 EPAC Season

#208 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:03 am

2018 had a strong +PMM that this year can only dream of having and had twice the ACE YTD. I do think if the 200 mbar patterns shown so far and shown in models persists we can reasonably achieve normal to slightly above normal numbers but that's still an if at this point in time.

As for the WPAC, June is less activity than even May there due to the Mei-yu front so the relative inactivity observed there is normal for this time of year.
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Re: 2025 EPAC Season

#209 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:29 am

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
500 AM PDT Mon Jun 30 2025

For the eastern and central North Pacific east of 180 longitude:

Active Systems:
The National Hurricane Center is issuing advisories on Tropical
Storm Flossie, located in the eastern Pacific basin a couple of
hundred miles offshore the coast of southwestern Mexico.

1. South of Southwestern Mexico:
An area of low pressure could form several hundred miles offshore of
southwestern Mexico late this week. Some gradual development of this
system is possible thereafter while it moves generally
west-northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...low...30 percent.



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Re: 2025 EPAC Season

#210 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:31 pm

GFS has more EPAC activity on the pipe with the remnants of the first one near Hawaii.

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Re: 2025 EPAC Season

#211 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:38 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:2018 had a strong +PMM that this year can only dream of having and had twice the ACE YTD. I do think if the 200 mbar patterns shown so far and shown in models persists we can reasonably achieve normal to slightly above normal numbers but that's still an if at this point in time.

As for the WPAC, June is less activity than even May there due to the Mei-yu front so the relative inactivity observed there is normal for this time of year.


Overall the WPAC is well bellow normal in regards to ACE though.

Been a while since we've seen a -PDO/-PMM combo this stout. I agree this is nothing like 2018.
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Re: 2025 EPAC Season

#212 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:38 pm

Ntxw wrote:Long tracker probably in the cards soon. What a start, the SOI has never really been solidly Nina for a long time now. The warming/WWBs in the far eastern eq Pacific during this past winter season was definitely odd considering.

Very odd whats going on with the GFS showing back to back long trackers.
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Re: 2025 EPAC Season

#213 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:52 pm

South of Southwestern Mexico:
An area of low pressure could form several hundred miles offshore of
southwestern Mexico late this week. Some gradual development of this
system is possible thereafter while it moves generally
west-northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...low...30 percent.
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Re: 2025 EPAC Season

#214 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:47 pm

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
500 PM PDT Mon Jun 30 2025

For the eastern and central North Pacific east of 180 longitude:

Active Systems:
The National Hurricane Center is issuing advisories on Tropical
Storm Flossie, located in the eastern Pacific basin a couple of
hundred miles offshore the coast of southwestern Mexico.

1. South of Southwestern Mexico:
An area of low pressure is forecast to develop several hundred miles
offshore of southwestern Mexico late this week. Environmental
conditions appear conducive for some gradual development of this
system thereafter while it moves generally west-northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...low...30 percent.



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Re: 2025 EPAC Season

#215 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:16 pm

Kingarabian 18z GFS sends the AOI to Hawaii. :D

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Re: 2025 EPAC Season

#216 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:21 pm

cycloneye wrote:Kingarabian 18z GFS sends the AOI to Hawaii. :D

https://i.imgur.com/fozG7V2.png

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Re: 2025 EPAC Season

#217 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 01, 2025 5:36 am

2 AM PDT.

South of Southwestern Mexico:
An area of low pressure is forecast to develop several hundred miles
offshore of southwestern Mexico late this week. Environmental
conditions appear conducive for some gradual development of this
system thereafter, and a tropical depression could form over the
weekend while it moves generally west-northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...medium...40 percent.
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Re: 2025 EPAC Season

#218 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 01, 2025 6:40 am

5 AM PDT:

South of Southwestern Mexico:
An area of low pressure is forecast to develop several hundred miles
offshore of southwestern Mexico late this week. Environmental
conditions appear conducive for some gradual development of this
system thereafter, and a tropical depression could form over the
weekend while it moves generally west-northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...medium...40 percent.
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Re: 2025 EPAC Season

#219 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 01, 2025 12:41 pm

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
1100 AM PDT Tue Jul 1 2025

For the eastern and central North Pacific east of 180 longitude:

Active Systems:
The National Hurricane Center is issuing advisories on Hurricane
Flossie, located in the eastern Pacific basin around 180 miles
offshore the coast of southwestern Mexico.

1. South of Southwestern Mexico:
An area of low pressure is forecast to develop several hundred miles
offshore of southwestern Mexico late this week. Environmental
conditions appear conducive for some gradual development of this
system thereafter, and a tropical depression could form over the
weekend while it moves generally west-northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...medium...40 percent.



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Re: 2025 EPAC Season

#220 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 02, 2025 6:40 am

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
500 AM PDT Wed Jul 2 2025

For the eastern and central North Pacific east of 180 longitude:

Active Systems:
The National Hurricane Center is issuing advisories on Hurricane
Flossie, located in the eastern Pacific basin, a few hundred miles
south of the southern tip of the Baja California peninsula.

1. South of Southwestern Mexico:
An area of low pressure is forecast to develop several hundred miles
offshore of southwestern Mexico in a few days. Environmental
conditions appear conducive for some gradual development of this
system thereafter, and a tropical depression could form over the
weekend or early next week while it moves generally
west-northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...medium...50 percent.
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