2025 Tropical Cyclone Name Retirements (Including but not limited to the Atlantic Basin)

[Category5Kaiju]

Sigh....I guess it's time to create this thread.

[Teban54]

Male E names that cannot be used to replace Erick, if it ends up retired:

• On current ATL/EPAC naming lists: Edouard, Earl, Ernesto, Enrique, Eugene, Esteban
• (Amazingly, no male E names have been retired yet)

Some possibilities:

• If Mexico gets to pick the replacement name and prefers a Hispanic name: Enzo, Elija, Emanuel, Elias
• Without such considerations: Evan, Edgar, Emerson, Edmond, Edward, Eddie (the later ones are less ideal due to Edouard)

[MadaTheConquistador]

Male E names that cannot be used to replace Erick, if it ends up retired:

• On current ATL/EPAC naming lists: Edouard, Earl, Ernesto, Enrique, Eugene, Esteban
• (Amazingly, no male E names have been retired yet)

Some possibilities:

• If Mexico gets to pick the replacement name and prefers a Hispanic name: Enzo, Elija, Emanuel, Elias
• Without such considerations: Evan, Edgar, Emerson, Edmond, Edward, Eddie (the later ones are less ideal due to Edouard)

I doubt Emanuel will be the replacement name for Erick if it gets retired mainly because it is pretty similar to another retired storm on the Pacific side, that being Manuel, which was retired 12 years ago and I believe it's the second costliest Pacific hurricane after Otis. However, it's not impossible. They replaced Otis with Otilio, so I may or may not be biased.

But most of the other ones you mentioned are good replacement names. Other ideas I have as a potential replacement for Erick are Ethan, Ezra, Emmett, Elroy, Emilio, Eros, and Ezekiel.

[Torino]

Edgar is the best option, imo. I believe it's also a common name in Mexico..

[MadaTheConquistador]

According to Wikipedia, Erick (now C4) has caused around 17 deaths in Mexico with 3 more people. Right now it's looking it's got a good shot of getting retired, and it reminds of John from last year. Looks like we could be starting to see names on the Pacific side getting retired a bit more often. We've seen a couple of majors making landfall on the Pacific side of Mexico, but I think Mexico is overdue for a major hurricane on the Atlantic side.

[Teban54]

but I think Mexico is overdue for a major hurricane on the Atlantic side.

Grace made landfall in Mexico as a major hurricane in 2021, the country's most recent MH landfall on the Atlantic side. However, it wasn't retired -- possibly because of relatively less severe damage of $300 mil USD and 9 deaths, despite its intensity.

For the record, Willa 2018 in the Pacific did more damage than Grace ($820 mil USD and 9 deaths), and it also wasn't retired. Same for Alex and Karl 2010. Mexico can be strange with retirement requests sometimes.

I'm not sure about return periods of major hurricanes for Mexico, but are they so frequent that 4 years without an MH landfall is rare? Just looking at the landfall records in recent years, that doesn't seem to be the case.

[Ulf]

According to Wikipedia, Erick (now C4) has caused around 17 deaths in Mexico with 3 more people. Right now it's looking it's got a good shot of getting retired, and it reminds of John from last year. Looks like we could be starting to see names on the Pacific side getting retired a bit more often. We've seen a couple of majors making landfall on the Pacific side of Mexico, but I think Mexico is overdue for a major hurricane on the Atlantic side.

Sixteen of those deaths were actually from Guatemala where they do not get this amount of deaths from tropical cyclone often. If Guatemala treats this like Agatha (2010), no shot they will be the one requesting Erick's retirement.

So, I will be waiting on the news of fatalities and damage in Mexico.

[Astromanía]

I don't think Erick will be retired

[StormWeather]

According to Wikipedia, Erick (now C4) has caused around 17 deaths in Mexico with 3 more people. Right now it's looking it's got a good shot of getting retired, and it reminds of John from last year. Looks like we could be starting to see names on the Pacific side getting retired a bit more often. We've seen a couple of majors making landfall on the Pacific side of Mexico, but I think Mexico is overdue for a major hurricane on the Atlantic side.

How about the fact that Erick just extended the Major Hurricane landfall streak to four years?


2022: Hurricane Roslyn (125 mph Cat 3 at landfall)

2023: Hurricane Lidia (140 mph Cat 4 at landfall)
Hurricane Otis (record 160 mph Cat 5 at landfall)

2024: Hurricane John (120 mph Cat 3 at landfall)


2025 to date: Hurricane Erick (125 mph Cat 3 at landfall)

[Hurricane2022]

According to Wikipedia, Erick (now C4) has caused around 17 deaths in Mexico with 3 more people. Right now it's looking it's got a good shot of getting retired, and it reminds of John from last year. Looks like we could be starting to see names on the Pacific side getting retired a bit more often. We've seen a couple of majors making landfall on the Pacific side of Mexico, but I think Mexico is overdue for a major hurricane on the Atlantic side.

If Mexico requests the retirement of Erick, i think Edgardo, Edmundo and Emiliano could be good choices for replacing that name.

[MadaTheConquistador]

but I think Mexico is overdue for a major hurricane on the Atlantic side.

Grace made landfall in Mexico as a major hurricane in 2021, the country's most recent MH landfall on the Atlantic side. However, it wasn't retired -- possibly because of relatively less severe damage of $300 mil USD and 9 deaths, despite its intensity.

For the record, Willa 2018 in the Pacific did more damage than Grace ($820 mil USD and 9 deaths), and it also wasn't retired. Same for Alex and Karl 2010. Mexico can be strange with retirement requests sometimes.

I'm not sure about return periods of major hurricanes for Mexico, but are they so frequent that 4 years without an MH landfall is rare? Just looking at the landfall records in recent years, that doesn't seem to be the case.

Sorry, I have a pretty foggy memory on Mexico getting hit by major hurricanes on the Atlantic side. I also thought I remembered Grace making landfall as a major in Honduras and not Mexico, but oh well.

[Cleveland Kent Evans]

[quote="Teban54"]
Some possibilities:

• If Mexico gets to pick the replacement name and prefers a Hispanic name: Enzo, Elija, Emanuel, Elias
• Without such considerations: Evan, Edgar, Emerson, Edmond, Edward, Eddie (the later ones are less ideal due to Edouard)

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A minor point: Enzo is much more an Italian name than a Hispanic one. It isn't even included in the Mexican given name dictionary I own. Elija also doesn't seem to be a Spanish form. Perhaps you were thinking of Eligio.

[Hurricane2022]

Some possibilities:
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[*] If Mexico gets to pick the replacement name and prefers a Hispanic name: Enzo, Elija, Emanuel

A very similar name, Manuel, was already retired in 2013. It would be a terrible choice for replacing a name.

[Ulf]

Erick has caused only 4 or 5 deaths and around $200 million in damages in Mexico so far.

Very much thanks to the Mexican government having time to do proper preparation unlike with Otis and John which unexpectedly blew up shortly before landfall.

Unless Guatemala requests it, very unlikely Erick will get retired.

[MadaTheConquistador]

Erick has caused only 4 or 5 deaths and around $200 million in damages in Mexico so far.

Very much thanks to the Mexican government having time to do proper preparation unlike with Otis and John which unexpectedly blew up shortly before landfall.

Unless Guatemala requests it, very unlikely Erick will get retired.

Yeah, at this point I am doubtful Erick is gonna get retired, and I am not really sure what Guatemala's track record is when it comes to requesting names to be retired. I'm not even sure if they requested Agatha to be retired back in 2010, but Idk.

[Ulf]

Flash flooding in central Texas from Barry's remnant has killed 25 people with dozens more missing. Five were killed in Mexico.

If the death toll goes up to 40 or 50, then I would give Barry around a 30% chance at best of getting retired. Then again, it was a short-lived weak tropical storm that people would not immediately associate with the Texas flooding.

[HurricaneRyan]

Flash flooding in central Texas from Barry's remnant has killed 25 people with dozens more missing. Five were killed in Mexico.

If the death toll goes up to 40 or 50, then I would give Barry around a 30% chance at best of getting retired. Then again, it was a short-lived weak tropical storm that people would not immediately associate with the Texas flooding.

The fact that I had no idea the flooding was associated with Barry says a lot tbh.

[Category5Kaiju]

Wow, I'm honestly quite stunned and horrified at the floods in Central Texas. Unfortunately there seems to have been a summer camp in the valley that got washed out by the flash floods, killing multiple children.

I also didn't know until just recently that this storm was from Barry's remnant moisture. Based on satellite imagery, I thought it was just a massive supercell (I guess the recent tornadoes in North and South Dakota sort of conditioned me to believe that the heart of the country was already seeing supercell outbreaks anyways). The fact that I didn't know this probably serves as a testament to how loosely tied Barry was to the flash floods, and because of this I doubt Barry will be retired (kind of like what happened with Imelda in 2019 nand Debby last year).

[sasha_B]

Wow, I'm honestly quite stunned and horrified at the floods in Central Texas. Unfortunately there seems to have been a summer camp in the valley that got washed out by the flash floods, killing multiple children.

I also didn't know until just recently that this storm was from Barry's remnant moisture. Based on satellite imagery, I thought it was just a massive supercell (I guess the recent tornadoes in North and South Dakota sort of conditioned me to believe that the heart of the country was already seeing supercell outbreaks anyways). The fact that I didn't know this probably serves as a testament to how loosely tied Barry was to the flash floods, and because of this I doubt Barry will be retired (kind of like what happened with Imelda in 2019 nand Debby last year).

I also had no idea that it was associated with remnants of Barry until this morning...it's a shocking and tragic flooding event, and one that will probably be considered distinct from what was ultimately a weak and disorganised TS Barry, so the chances that the name gets retired are slim. That said, the fact that this disaster isn't widely understood as having occured downstream of a tropical cyclone is, itself, arguably a case for retirement. Raising awareness of the impacts that extratropical remnants can have on areas far from their "point of landfall" - as seen here, and with Imelda and Debby and others - is important, and as unlikely as it is to be nominated I think it would be in the public interest to consider it.

[ljmac75]

Stating the obvious here but with Barry it's gonna depend on how much people associate the flooding with Barry and how many people are actually killed. It has some parallels with Dora and the Hawaii wildfire, although I think Barry is more involved in the flooding that Dora was with the fire. Unlike with Dora this won't be the worst natural disaster in the state and people might generally move on from it after a few months even with the loss of life.