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Re: Discussion of Intense Tropical Cyclones

#781 Postby Monisae » Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:49 am

Hurricane2000 wrote:I got a good question for y'all, if reconnaissance never went into Hurricane Patricia 2015, (Like most WPAC storms), what would your estimates be? Feel free to provide explanations as to why!

I'm guess NHC will gave 150kt for Patricia if there's no recon because they never use polar, Patricia was cmg+ow on GEO and it went to 7.0 Dvorak.
Here's a good example how NHC underrated hurricanes in EPAC, they only gave 115kt for Simon 2014
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Re: Discussion of Intense Tropical Cyclones

#782 Postby Hurricane2000 » Fri Mar 21, 2025 4:23 pm

Monisae wrote:
Hurricane2000 wrote:I got a good question for y'all, if reconnaissance never went into Hurricane Patricia 2015, (Like most WPAC storms), what would your estimates be? Feel free to provide explanations as to why!

I'm guess NHC will gave 150kt for Patricia if there's no recon because they never use polar, Patricia was cmg+ow on GEO and it went to 7.0 Dvorak.
Here's a good example how NHC underrated hurricanes in EPAC, they only gave 115kt for Simon 2014
https://i.postimg.cc/wvqX6y05/simon-avhrr.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/W14tbmv1/simon-viirs.jpg

Nice images! Do you have any of Patricia?
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Re: Discussion of Intense Tropical Cyclones

#783 Postby Hurricane2000 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:49 pm

Does anyone here know the lowest pressure measured in Hurricane Patricia 2015? Wikipedia says 879mb, CIMSS says 878.4mb, and people I've asked on X (Twitter) said it was 878mb. Could anyone here help clear things up? Thanks!
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Re: Discussion of Intense Tropical Cyclones

#784 Postby ljmac75 » Tue Apr 29, 2025 8:22 pm

Hurricane2000 wrote:Does anyone here know the lowest pressure measured in Hurricane Patricia 2015? Wikipedia says 879mb, CIMSS says 878.4mb, and people I've asked on X (Twitter) said it was 878mb. Could anyone here help clear things up? Thanks!

I checked a recon archive (https://tropicaleastpacific.com/recon/r ... m=Patricia) and it looks like the lowest dropsonde pressures were 885 with a 57 kt wind and 883 with a 47 kt wind, which would adjust to around 879 and 878 using the standard 1 mb pressure for every 10 kt wind rule in the eye. Lowest extrapolated pressure (pressure vs height extrapolation) was 878.4 mb.
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Re: Discussion of Intense Tropical Cyclones

#785 Postby Hurricane2000 » Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:45 am

ljmac75 wrote:
Hurricane2000 wrote:Does anyone here know the lowest pressure measured in Hurricane Patricia 2015? Wikipedia says 879mb, CIMSS says 878.4mb, and people I've asked on X (Twitter) said it was 878mb. Could anyone here help clear things up? Thanks!

I checked a recon archive (https://tropicaleastpacific.com/recon/r ... m=Patricia) and it looks like the lowest dropsonde pressures were 885 with a 57 kt wind and 883 with a 47 kt wind, which would adjust to around 879 and 878 using the standard 1 mb pressure for every 10 kt wind rule in the eye. Lowest extrapolated pressure (pressure vs height extrapolation) was 878.4 mb.

Thanks! Is there anywhere I can find the 878.4mb extrapolation?
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Re: Discussion of Intense Tropical Cyclones

#786 Postby Travorum » Wed Apr 30, 2025 3:04 pm

Hurricane2000 wrote:
ljmac75 wrote:
Hurricane2000 wrote:Does anyone here know the lowest pressure measured in Hurricane Patricia 2015? Wikipedia says 879mb, CIMSS says 878.4mb, and people I've asked on X (Twitter) said it was 878mb. Could anyone here help clear things up? Thanks!

I checked a recon archive (https://tropicaleastpacific.com/recon/r ... m=Patricia) and it looks like the lowest dropsonde pressures were 885 with a 57 kt wind and 883 with a 47 kt wind, which would adjust to around 879 and 878 using the standard 1 mb pressure for every 10 kt wind rule in the eye. Lowest extrapolated pressure (pressure vs height extrapolation) was 878.4 mb.

Thanks! Is there anywhere I can find the 878.4mb extrapolation?


That recon archive has the HDOB message with the 878.4mb extrap here: https://tropicaleastpacific.com/recon/r ... .4-181-166
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Re: Discussion of Intense Tropical Cyclones

#787 Postby Hurricane2000 » Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:50 pm

Travorum wrote:
Hurricane2000 wrote:
ljmac75 wrote:I checked a recon archive (https://tropicaleastpacific.com/recon/r ... m=Patricia) and it looks like the lowest dropsonde pressures were 885 with a 57 kt wind and 883 with a 47 kt wind, which would adjust to around 879 and 878 using the standard 1 mb pressure for every 10 kt wind rule in the eye. Lowest extrapolated pressure (pressure vs height extrapolation) was 878.4 mb.

Thanks! Is there anywhere I can find the 878.4mb extrapolation?


That recon archive has the HDOB message with the 878.4mb extrap here: https://tropicaleastpacific.com/recon/r ... .4-181-166

Thanks again! :wink:
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Re: Discussion of Intense Tropical Cyclones

#788 Postby Hurricane2000 » Wed Jun 04, 2025 12:53 pm

Does anyone here know where I can find the source for the 878mb reading in Typhoon Meranti 2016? If my memory serves correctly, it was taken at Itbayat Municipal Hall and was 877.9mb, rounded to 878mb. However I can't seem to find the original source anywhere, only the 883mb reading. Thanks
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Re: Discussion of Intense Tropical Cyclones

#789 Postby mrbagyo » Fri Jun 13, 2025 7:05 am

Hurricane2000 wrote:Does anyone here know where I can find the source for the 878mb reading in Typhoon Meranti 2016? If my memory serves correctly, it was taken at Itbayat Municipal Hall and was 877.9mb, rounded to 878mb. However I can't seem to find the original source anywhere, only the 883mb reading. Thanks



here you go

https://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=118290&start=260


original source : https://philsensors.asti.dost.gov.ph/site/data
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Re: Discussion of Intense Tropical Cyclones

#790 Postby Hurricane2000 » Sat Jun 14, 2025 2:25 pm

Thank you :ggreen:
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Re: Discussion of Intense Tropical Cyclones

#791 Postby Hurricane2000 » Thu Jul 10, 2025 11:38 am

It's likely been brought up before, but I think it deserves more discussion, it's Cyclone Phailin 2013! This storm had a really good structure as well as a very warm and dry eye thanks to Polar Satellites. Also not to mention the buoy measurement of ~920mb after peak and possibly not in the eye! Someone estimated Phailin to have 190mph winds and a pressure in the 890s! What do you think? How strong was Phailin really?
Edit: Some people say this could have rivaled the 1999 Odisha Cyclone!
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