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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#821 Postby tolakram » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:53 pm

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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#822 Postby chris_fit » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:53 pm

tolakram wrote:12Z Euro
https://i.imgur.com/vNkhbef.gif


Soooo many wobbles on the approach, and it's not just the EURO showing this....
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#823 Postby ColdFusion » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:06 pm

chris_fit wrote:
tolakram wrote:12Z Euro
https://i.imgur.com/vNkhbef.gif


Soooo many wobbles on the approach, and it's not just the EURO showing this....


Bumping up against that frontal boundary...they tend to sway.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#824 Postby Blown Away » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:17 pm

chris_fit wrote:12z EURO -- Damn Tampa

https://i.imgur.com/Ggt6WtH.png


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JMHO… Tropical systems moving NE along a trough usually don’t make hard E turns. A smoother NE track from the S GOM over @Cape Coral then ENE OTS seems more in line with climatology…

Not official info, just my amateur opinion…
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#825 Postby Stormlover70 » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:38 pm

Fml in new port richey
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#826 Postby BIFF_THE_UNRULY » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:38 pm

the hard cut right is the frontal boundary i assume


Could that boundary save Tampa just in time?
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#827 Postby BIFF_THE_UNRULY » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:40 pm

Stormlover70 wrote:Fml in new port richey


Me too man. Hudson here. Its chaos here. There is still issues with Helene stuff.

No idea what i am gonna do. My house was built in 2001 so its more modern and i am in Flood Zone A, so no really an issue. Not in an evacuation zone either.

Not sure what i am doing really. Wife wants to go to Panama city, I kind of want to stay since i am nowhere near the coast but the pithlacoochie river is a quarter mile away tho

Really anagozing decision.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#828 Postby CycloysisNegative » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:41 pm

BIFF_THE_UNRULY wrote:the hard cut right is the frontal boundary i assume


Could that boundary save Tampa just in time?



That’s what I’ve been thinking the past 6hrs. Could that be the Charley like right hook? Not saying Port Charolette, but if that turn happens earlier, might save TB from the surge.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#829 Postby BIFF_THE_UNRULY » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:43 pm

CycloysisNegative wrote:
BIFF_THE_UNRULY wrote:the hard cut right is the frontal boundary i assume


Could that boundary save Tampa just in time?



That’s what I’ve been thinking the past 6hrs. Could that be the Charley like right hook? Not saying Port Charolette, but if that turn happens earlier, might save TB from the surge.


It might! We can hope for it
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#830 Postby MrJames » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:44 pm

18z track guidance
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Tightened up a bit.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#831 Postby BIFF_THE_UNRULY » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:45 pm

MrJames wrote:18z track guidance
https://i.imgur.com/wLb8jUx.png

Tightened up a bit.


i cant see tampa bay underneath all those plots.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#832 Postby HurricaneBelle » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:46 pm

BIFF_THE_UNRULY wrote:
MrJames wrote:18z track guidance
https://i.imgur.com/wLb8jUx.png

Tightened up a bit.


i cant see tampa bay underneath all those plots.


most of them are just south, over Bradenton/Sarasota
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#833 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:47 pm

HurricaneBelle wrote:
BIFF_THE_UNRULY wrote:
MrJames wrote:18z track guidance
https://i.imgur.com/wLb8jUx.png

Tightened up a bit.


i cant see tampa bay underneath all those plots.


most of them are just south, over Bradenton/Sarasota


So... right into the mouth of the bay? In terms of surge that might actually be worse.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#834 Postby chaser1 » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:50 pm

fsucory08 wrote:
skillz305 wrote:The direct cut east is kinda worrisome for the treasure coast here


Especially because it's really a timing thing. If Milton slows down on approach, would not have a lot of warning of an abrupt right turn. Just another thing to watch for. Wonder if the NHC shifts the track after landfall.


I believe any eastward motion would be the result of its forward motion being steered by the lower levels as a result of dry air entrainment (rather then caused by land itself). I think that will be better predicted as we get a little closer in. I could even see the storm potentially getting shunted southeast if the dropping trough were particularly flat (east/west oriented)
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#835 Postby BIFF_THE_UNRULY » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:51 pm

MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS wrote:
HurricaneBelle wrote:
BIFF_THE_UNRULY wrote:
i cant see tampa bay underneath all those plots.


most of them are just south, over Bradenton/Sarasota


So... right into the mouth of the bay? In terms of surge that might actually be worse.


yes.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#836 Postby Blown Away » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:51 pm

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12z GEFS… Larger cluster over Cape Coral now

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06z GEFS

Track smoothing out IMO…
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#837 Postby HurricaneBelle » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:51 pm

MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS wrote:
HurricaneBelle wrote:
BIFF_THE_UNRULY wrote:
i cant see tampa bay underneath all those plots.


most of them are just south, over Bradenton/Sarasota


So... right into the mouth of the bay? In terms of surge that might actually be worse.


Bradenton and Sarasota are south of Tampa Bay (the body of water), the winds would be offshore over the bay as a result (but still Cat 3 or worse) but surge would be alleviated.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#838 Postby Zarniwoop » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:52 pm

It appears that it will weaken significantly before landfall. Would that be a correct prediction at the moment?
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#839 Postby StormPyrate » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:57 pm

Zarniwoop wrote:It appears that it will weaken significantly before landfall. Would that be a correct prediction at the moment?

weaken but expand, and still will have cat 4 wave in front of it
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#840 Postby jlauderdal » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:58 pm

chaser1 wrote:
fsucory08 wrote:
skillz305 wrote:The direct cut east is kinda worrisome for the treasure coast here


Especially because it's really a timing thing. If Milton slows down on approach, would not have a lot of warning of an abrupt right turn. Just another thing to watch for. Wonder if the NHC shifts the track after landfall.


I believe any eastward motion would be the result of its forward motion being steered by the lower levels as a result of dry air entrainment (rather then caused by land itself). I think that will be better predicted as we get a little closer in. I could even see the storm potentially getting shunted southeast if the dropping trough were particularly flat (east/west oriented)


Interaction with the Yucatan could cause some easterly motion; when they get this intense and have friction with land, that can cause minor changes in direction over the short term which of course matter. Anything south of tampa would be ideal, sorry it has come to that but thats where we are at with this storm.
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