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Re: ATL: MILTON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#521 Postby NDG » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:11 am

Wow, Milton is much stronger than estimated just 2 hours ago. :double:
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#522 Postby mantis83 » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:11 am

Keldeo1997 wrote::double: :double: I think we are in big trouble

wow, still not fully organized yet either..... :eek:
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#523 Postby caneman » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:12 am

We are now close to 72 hours out. Forecast track error goes down to just 75 miles now. Seems to be zoning in on Tampa to Ft. Meyers. I'd probably bet on Sarasota.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#524 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:15 am

Peak Flight-Level Winds: 51kt at 11:04z


Minimum Extrap. Pressure: 985.6mb at 11:01z
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#525 Postby NDG » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:15 am

kevin wrote:Time to throw all the recent models out the window. Milton's real time situation is so radically different from the model initialization that they're practically worthless. 12z should hopefully be much more accurate.


06z GFS just about nailed its current position, no need to throw it out the window!!!

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https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0600&fh=12
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#526 Postby Keldeo1997 » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:19 am

NDG wrote:
kevin wrote:Time to throw all the recent models out the window. Milton's real time situation is so radically different from the model initialization that they're practically worthless. 12z should hopefully be much more accurate.


06z GFS just about nailed its current position, no need to throw it out the window!!!

https://i.imgur.com/luorKkt.gif

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0600&fh=12

But its way off on intensity
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#527 Postby xironman » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:19 am

NDG wrote:
kevin wrote:Time to throw all the recent models out the window. Milton's real time situation is so radically different from the model initialization that they're practically worthless. 12z should hopefully be much more accurate.


06z GFS just about nailed its current position, no need to throw it out the window!!!

https://i.imgur.com/luorKkt.gif

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0600&fh=12


The track and speed going forward will be effected because different layers of the atmosphere will be guiding it.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#528 Postby eastcoastFL » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:20 am

Lol like winds are 50kts for now. So probably see a little bump at 11am from the NHC but still a TS for now.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#529 Postby Pasmorade » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:22 am

cycloneye wrote:
Peak Flight-Level Winds: 51kt at 11:04z


Minimum Extrap. Pressure: 985.6mb at 11:01z

Why in the world is Milton that deep?
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#530 Postby NDG » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:22 am

Keldeo1997 wrote:
NDG wrote:
kevin wrote:Time to throw all the recent models out the window. Milton's real time situation is so radically different from the model initialization that they're practically worthless. 12z should hopefully be much more accurate.


06z GFS just about nailed its current position, no need to throw it out the window!!!

https://i.imgur.com/luorKkt.gif

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0600&fh=12

But its way off on intensity


Which is not unusual for a global forecasting the exact pressure of a fairly small storm. It shows its pressure falling 24 mb during the next 24 hrs, that is the most important thing.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#531 Postby BobHarlem » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:23 am

I wonder if they'll put out a special 8AM for this. No watches/warnings currently but that's a pretty big difference from the 5am still.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#532 Postby eastcoastFL » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:24 am

God bit of shear to Milton’s north right now, should keep him from gettin too crazy short term. But he will move into a more favorable environment tonight and tomorrow.


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Re: ATL: MILTON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#533 Postby eastcoastFL » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:25 am

BobHarlem wrote:I wonder if they'll put out a special 8AM for this. No watches/warnings currently but that's a pretty big difference from the 5am still.


Watches have to go up soon. West coast will be in the 72 hour window.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#534 Postby xironman » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:26 am

eastcoastFL wrote:Lola like winds are 50kts for now. So probably see a little bump at 11am from the NHC but still a TS for now.


True, still a TS but they have not sampled the whole storm yet. My guess is the SW side may have some surprises.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#535 Postby drezee » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:26 am

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Re: ATL: MILTON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#536 Postby SFLcane » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:28 am

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Re: ATL: MILTON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#537 Postby BobHarlem » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:32 am

Vortex message from the dropsonde was 993mb.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#538 Postby NDG » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:33 am



986 mb extrap pressure, you forgot to mention.
Dropsonde showed 993 mb pressure with 19 knots winds so at most 990 mb is the lowest.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#539 Postby Keldeo1997 » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:34 am

Image This drop seems like giant red flag. Already has that V shape
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#540 Postby xironman » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:38 am

The core is coming along well

P. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 11°C (52°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,056m (10,026ft)
Q. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 19°C (66°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,062m (10,046ft)
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