Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (Is Invest 92L)

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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#581 Postby Nuno » Fri Oct 04, 2024 3:56 pm

CourierPR wrote:For those saying it would be hard to get a storm in South FL based on the angle of approach, I remind you that in 2005 Wilma hit South FL from the Yucatan Peninsula.


This is likely to cut east north of the Yucatan, they're not going to be in the same position.
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#582 Postby drezee » Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:00 pm

The Euro is clearly hinting that there is a sweet spot in relation to that jet streak. Too many runs below 960mb.

 https://x.com/andretrotter/status/1842246105104347514

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Re: Limited development in the Gulf of Mexico (Interaction with Frontal Boundary) (0/30)

#583 Postby chaser1 » Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:09 pm

wzrgirl1 wrote:
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Just renewed my flood insurance policy even though I am not in a flood zone. Just can't take the chance here in southwest Broward County.


Good move by you! I used to live in Pembroke Shores on a large lake and I wouldn't have lived there without Flood insurance!


My first home was in Pembroke Shores! It was the townhomes when you first drive into the complex on the right. I loved living there it just became too small for my household. Now I am in Silver Lakes.


Yep, very nice homes further west in the Silver Lakes area. It's been at least 8 years since moving from there. Isn't Chappel Trails even further west than you? I thought that I recalled them having some minor flooding issues years back? Anyway, better safe than sorry (especially since it looks like a pile of rain may be heading our way).
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#584 Postby Blown Away » Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:16 pm

cycloneye wrote:The historical angle.

 https://x.com/AndyHazelton/status/1842290008092184649


I've always been big on historical precedence, but Cat 5 Michael, Cat 3 Idelia, and Cat 4 Helene landfalls on Panhandle/Big Bend, go back the same @170 years and there are no records of high end MH direct landfalls in that region... So these days anything seems possible like a hurricane off the TX/MX coast zipping ENE over SFL, why not? 8-)
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#585 Postby Emmett_Brown » Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:19 pm

18Z Icon has 986mb into Charlotte Harbor at 18Z Wed. So Icon is also trending a little stronger over the last several runs; and the timing is very similar to the last run
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#586 Postby chaser1 » Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:20 pm



ICON has been the most consistent with this disturbance however the system appears more subtropical on it's 12Z model run showing a 990 mb on approach to SW Florida. Look how broad the wind gradient is, especially on its West side. Not much in terms of stronger winds near the core are indicated.
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#587 Postby Steve » Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:20 pm

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CMC isn’t that though those may just be arrows pointing in a direction.


Sure, at the end its was going ENE if you extrapolate that seems ok.


I agree with that but it’s presented like a spaghetti model plot but with directional arrows. Knowing CMC hasn’t hit FL by 10 days kind of makes it look like a hype graphic. I’m not making a judgment call on that being good or bad in this instance.
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#588 Postby chaser1 » Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:23 pm

Emmett_Brown wrote:18Z Icon has 986mb into Charlotte Harbor on 18Z Wed


Hmmm, perhaps a little like a (very) poor man's Hurricane Charley LOL.
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#591 Postby tolakram » Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:43 pm

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tolakram wrote:3 model runs, time for an invest :)

Does it seem they are 12-24 hours too slow on the invests? We currently have multiple "reliable" models with a hurricane into Florida.


I don't think so, the hurricane models have been less than useful early on. I suspect as soon as it looks like an LLC is very close we'll get an invest. Is that tonight or tomorrow?
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#592 Postby TomballEd » Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:47 pm

The good news is the rain should generally stay S of the Helene disaster areas. I have no idea what strength this would be, but 5 hurricane landfalls on the US Gulf coast in one season would be impressive.
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#593 Postby Nuno » Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:49 pm

TomballEd wrote:The good news is the rain should generally stay S of the Helene disaster areas. I have no idea what strength this would be, but 5 hurricane landfalls on the US Gulf coast in one season would be impressive.


Not the "bust" season people were talking about.

Been a lot of consistency with the modeling in track the last couple days. I'd pay attention to the ICON
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#594 Postby chaser1 » Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:52 pm

My guess is that it's going to need about 24 hr's to begin looking like there's any semblance of something consolidating. It may be not until then when its finally labeled as an invest?
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#595 Postby HurricaneBelle » Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:52 pm

TomballEd wrote:The good news is the rain should generally stay S of the Helene disaster areas. I have no idea what strength this would be, but 5 hurricane landfalls on the US Gulf coast in one season would be impressive.


Except for the disaster area of the Pinellas County beaches.
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#596 Postby johngaltfla » Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:58 pm

Local mets projecting over 5" of rain before the storm gets near us.

A direct hit or near hit in Sarasota or Manatee with over 10" of rain will be a disaster.
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#597 Postby chaser1 » Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:04 pm

TomballEd wrote:The good news is the rain should generally stay S of the Helene disaster areas. I have no idea what strength this would be, but 5 hurricane landfalls on the US Gulf coast in one season would be impressive.


5 Hurricane landfalls would be something although I'm far from convinced this particular system will reach hurricane intensity. I'm thinking the Over/Under on this one might be a 65 mph T.S.?
If so, my bet is on the "Under"!
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#598 Postby toad strangler » Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:13 pm

18z GFS much further S than what we’ve seen on runs today and weaker.
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#599 Postby psyclone » Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:44 pm

toad strangler wrote:18z GFS much further S than what we’ve seen on runs today and weaker.

That's a reasonable solution too
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#600 Postby fci » Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:45 pm

johngaltfla wrote:Local mets projecting over 5" of rain before the storm gets near us.

A direct hit or near hit in Sarasota or Manatee with over 10" of rain will be a disaster.


Is flooding from rain a big issue in your area or is it surge that’s the issue?
I’m not challenging you here. I live in Palm Beach County and while 10” of rain would cause localized flooding here, it doesn’t take rivers/lakes/bodies over water over their banks.
Is it different on the west coast where rain causes a disaster or is it surge?
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