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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#541 Postby chris_fit » Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:57 pm

FL is not going to like the 12z EPS either.... lots of hurricanes through 120 hours...Several what looks like majors.



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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#542 Postby jlauderdal » Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:19 pm

ColdMiser123 wrote:Very strong signal on the 12z EPS.

The op came in strong; this is trending the wrong direction; maybe the HAFS suite was on to something yesterday with intensity. This is the gyre in action, textbook.
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#543 Postby BIFF_THE_UNRULY » Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:27 pm

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BIFF_THE_UNRULY wrote:Models seem to have no idea what this is going to be, only on vaguely where its going, somewhere with Tampa in the middle of the cone and Fort myers to Cedar Key at the edges

I am going to really start keeping an eye on this. I would hope the NHC throws an Invest up

I saw a model that showed 33" of Rain next week :eek: and then ive seen a Category 4.


tampa bro's....is it finally our time?


I remember a couple GFS runs before Ian gave me 4 feet of rain and I ended up with less than 1". We have a hardcore modelstorm climo here... Tampa bros are either cleaning up from the last mess or blissfully unconcerned at present..


Yikes. But still you take notice. I dont think "Tampa" would exist after 33" of Rain in 2 days. I am almost sure the entire city would be under water...Considering that only 4 or 5 inches half the roads become impassible
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#544 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:29 pm

chris_fit wrote:FL is not going to like the 12z EPS either.... lots of hurricanes through 120 hours...Several what looks like majors.



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Yikes....
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#545 Postby Nuno » Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:36 pm

Trend has been away from SFL and more towards CFL today. It could swing back and forth but it seems pretty difficult for a hurricane to hit so far south at this angle of approach. Interesting next few days.

I'd be worried between FMB and Sarasota
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#546 Postby psyclone » Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:37 pm

Holy smokes on those Euro ensembles. Hard pass. Escalation watch.
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#547 Postby beachnut » Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:37 pm

I'm less concerned about the wind and rain as I am about the surge. Living on the water is great until times like this. I stayed up until 3am the night of Helene watching meteorologist Matt Devitt on WINK as he talked us through the surge event here which also coincided with high tide. I bit my nails watching my dock disappear until only the top 18" of the pilings were visible.The further south this potential storm goes is fine with me!
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#548 Postby SFLcane » Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:44 pm

Nuno wrote:Trend has been away from SFL and more towards CFL today. It could swing back and forth but it seems pretty difficult for a hurricane to hit so far south at this angle of approach. Interesting next few days.

I'd be worried between FMB and Sarasota


Trend? there is not even a developed low on the map yet. Actual steering flow would surely favor something ejecting ENE across florida. I certainly do not see this getting as far north as tampa.
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#549 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:45 pm

Hard to get a Metro Dade/Broward/Palm Beach hit here based on the Euro run... could be another Big Bend solution if the models begin to trend North. Time will tell. Pretty much of all Florida needs to watch this.
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#550 Postby SFLcane » Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:45 pm

psyclone wrote:Holy smokes on those Euro ensembles. Hard pass. Escalation watch.


Probably overcooked... something in the middle looks more likely.
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#551 Postby caneman » Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:47 pm

SFLcane wrote:
Nuno wrote:Trend has been away from SFL and more towards CFL today. It could swing back and forth but it seems pretty difficult for a hurricane to hit so far south at this angle of approach. Interesting next few days.

I'd be worried between FMB and Sarasota


Trend? there is not even a developed low on the map yet. Actual steering flow would surely favor something ejecting ENE across florida. I certainly do not see this getting as far north as tampa.


GFS would disagree with you.
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#552 Postby caneman » Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:48 pm

SFLcane wrote:
psyclone wrote:Holy smokes on those Euro ensembles. Hard pass. Escalation watch.


Probably overcooked... something in the middle looks more likely.


Overcooked? It's the EURO. I think also the HAFS so wouldn't say overcooked. We still need to wait for an invest though
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#553 Postby SFLcane » Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:50 pm

caneman wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
psyclone wrote:Holy smokes on those Euro ensembles. Hard pass. Escalation watch.


Probably overcooked... something in the middle looks more likely.


Overcooked? It's the EURO. I wouldn't say that. We still need to wait for an invest.


eps yup can surely be overcooked lets see what the weekend brings no escape hatch for this one.
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#554 Postby Michele B » Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:50 pm

Nuno wrote:Trend has been away from SFL and more towards CFL today. It could swing back and forth but it seems pretty difficult for a hurricane to hit so far south at this angle of approach. Interesting next few days.

I'd be worried between FMB and Sarasota


I thought it was because there is a strong front across the I-10 which is supposed to push it further south? Not allowing northerly movement?
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#555 Postby jlauderdal » Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:51 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:Hard to get a Metro Dade/Broward/Palm Beach hit here based on the Euro run... could be another Big Bend solution if the models begin to trend North. Time will tell. Pretty much of all Florida needs to watch this.

I dont see how anything gets north of the stalled front over central florida, its going to be locked down and really be the focus as the flow drives everything along and south of it, there is a real model agreement on that.
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#556 Postby caneman » Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:52 pm

SFLcane wrote:
caneman wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
Probably overcooked... something in the middle looks more likely.


Overcooked? It's the EURO. I wouldn't say that. We still need to wait for an invest.


eps yup can surely be overcooked lets see what the weekend brings no escape hatch for this one.


Nobody said escape hatch but contrary to what you've been saying, if something does develop, Tampa is certainly within sight as well and certainly St. Pete and Clearwater but we'll see.
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (0/40)

#557 Postby Steve » Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:56 pm

GlennOBX wrote:Do any current model runs show this thing crossing Florida and then turning north toward the mid-Atlantic? Or do they show it heading OTS? I'm assuming the latter.


GFS = no (some energy sticks around the Bahamas until it's picked up by a trough). Mid Atlantic is under high pressure until a coldfront moves through there and another high takes over. Some higher elevation snows with that front.

CMC = no because it takes 10 days to get to landfall other models have much earlier. It still hasn't hit FL by hour 240. Too slow.

ICON = no Heads E/ENE out to sea

I didn't look at the EC yet.
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#558 Postby SFLcane » Fri Oct 04, 2024 3:00 pm

Not entirely sure it would be purely tropical as weathernerds ensembles show. Certainly regardless its something the westcoast of florida does not need. Models today have latched onto the leftovers from 11e well see if this afternoons trends hold over the weekend.

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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#559 Postby Steve » Fri Oct 04, 2024 3:03 pm

redingtonbeach wrote:
Nimbus wrote:
Emmett_Brown wrote:The 12Z Euro, Icon and GFS are all pretty close together at the moment, showing landfall on the FL W coast mid day Wednesday as a strong TS or Cat 1 'cane. All show a closed low over the BOC by Sunday morning. This runs look more tropical than hybrid for what it's worth.


And that landfall consensus is only 5 days out.
NHC odds to 50% that there will even be a TD forming anywhere in the gulf for the next 7.
Strange thing statistical odds.


And why the NHC percent rule is not working- folks wrongfully think they don’t need to worry about a 40-60% probable storm. Then they get hammered with a deluge of water.


That’s on them in my opinion.
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Re: Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (10/50)

#560 Postby Cat5James » Fri Oct 04, 2024 3:10 pm

Not liking the EPS. Watching closely from Manatee County
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