What’s going on with GOES imagery?

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What’s going on with GOES imagery?

#1 Postby aspen » Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:30 pm

I’ve noticed this year that GOES satellite imagery on Tropical Tidbits (as well as some other sites like WeatherNerds) has experienced far more delays and outages this year than in any other season I can recall. It’s currently in the middle of its worst one yet — imagery on TT has not updated since 16z yesterday (over 24 hours ago!). Does anyone know what’s going on? Does it have something to do with the GOES replacement satellite I think I heard about?
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Re: What’s going on with GOES imagery?

#2 Postby tolakram » Sat Sep 28, 2024 6:24 pm

aspen wrote:I’ve noticed this year that GOES satellite imagery on Tropical Tidbits (as well as some other sites like WeatherNerds) has experienced far more delays and outages this year than in any other season I can recall. It’s currently in the middle of its worst one yet — imagery on TT has not updated since 16z yesterday (over 24 hours ago!). Does anyone know what’s going on? Does it have something to do with the GOES replacement satellite I think I heard about?


I'm always looking at COD and SLIDER and have yet to see any interruptions.

https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=r ... =undefined
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Re: What’s going on with GOES imagery?

#3 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:19 pm

Also, the NRL site has a new section with many type of images bands for active systems.

https://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tcweb/activ ... 0927T1800Z
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Re: What’s going on with GOES imagery?

#4 Postby chaser1 » Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:24 am

Still no answer?? I'm sitting here dumbfounded that Tidbits' site link for Satellite is still essentially "wrecked". I'm aware that there are other sources for satellite but am surprised that no one has heard what the issues are with Tidbits site itself. There doesn't seem to be any reference by Levi about it either. Maybe the question could be better answered in one of our S2K Tropic's Threads given the greater traffic
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Re: What’s going on with GOES imagery?

#5 Postby WaveBreaking » Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:31 am

chaser1 wrote:Still no answer?? I'm sitting here dumbfounded that Tidbits' site link for Satellite is still essentially "wrecked". I'm aware that there are other sources for satellite but am surprised that no one has heard what the issues are with Tidbits site itself. There doesn't seem to be any reference by Levi about it either. Maybe the question could be better answered in one of our S2K Tropic's Threads given the greater traffic


From what I’ve seen, the data source that Tropical Tidbits, CyclonicWx, and Weathernerds all us is having some sort of problem that stops the sites from getting new imagery. But the official GOES satellite imagery website from NOAA and RAMMB SLIDER haven’t had any problems so far, so it’s not a satellite issue at least. EDIT: just read the rest of your post ignore the crossed out part

Also I think Levi mentioned the issue on Twitter/X a couple of days ago, and CyclonicWx has a backup link where you can download gifs of the latest imagery.
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Re: What’s going on with GOES imagery?

#6 Postby chaser1 » Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:53 pm

WaveBreaking wrote:
chaser1 wrote:Still no answer?? I'm sitting here dumbfounded that Tidbits' site link for Satellite is still essentially "wrecked". I'm aware that there are other sources for satellite but am surprised that no one has heard what the issues are with Tidbits site itself. There doesn't seem to be any reference by Levi about it either. Maybe the question could be better answered in one of our S2K Tropic's Threads given the greater traffic


From what I’ve seen, the data source that Tropical Tidbits, CyclonicWx, and Weathernerds all us is having some sort of problem that stops the sites from getting new imagery. But the official GOES satellite imagery website from NOAA and RAMMB SLIDER haven’t had any problems so far, so it’s not a satellite issue at least. EDIT: just read the rest of your post ignore the crossed out part

Also I think Levi mentioned the issue on Twitter/X a couple of days ago, and CyclonicWx has a backup link where you can download gifs of the latest imagery.


Thanks, but I just went to RAMMB and their 4KM floaters are all down as well. Just checked out CyclonicWx where this is posted on his page - "CyclonicWx's GOES data source is currently having an outage)". Lower on his website it shows the location for GOES 16 and GOES 18 but all frames are blank. A mesoscale 2 loop from CyclonicWX does depict Kirk, however, excludes the remaining Atlantic MDR. Best as I can tell, there is some kind of issue with the GOES East satellite, at minimum with regard to regional zoomed in access. I'll take a look at NASA's site to see if any different.
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Re: What’s going on with GOES imagery?

#7 Postby tolakram » Mon Sep 30, 2024 2:40 pm

Apparently the public source of GOES imagery is down. I have to assume there are different tiers of support since COD and SLIDER still has the latest.
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Re: What’s going on with GOES imagery?

#8 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 01, 2024 5:31 am

Good news as the outage is over and all the sites like Tropical Tidbits, Weathernerds etc, have all the images working fine.
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Re: What’s going on with GOES imagery?

#9 Postby wxman57 » Tue Oct 01, 2024 10:05 am

Many of us got our satellite data out of Ashville, NC. I wonder why it went down last week? Hmmm...
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Re: What’s going on with GOES imagery?

#10 Postby MarioProtVI » Tue Oct 01, 2024 5:51 pm

wxman57 wrote:Many of us got our satellite data out of Ashville, NC. I wonder why it went down last week? Hmmm...

:lol:

But if that’s why, maybe it’s best to relocate to a less prone TC area, maybe in the Central US perhaps. Just my thought.
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Re: What’s going on with GOES imagery?

#11 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:20 am

A new outage has occured this morning. Hopefully, is fixed very soon.
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Re: What’s going on with GOES imagery?

#12 Postby Fun&GamesUntil » Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:58 am

Does this affect forecasting of current storms?
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Re: What’s going on with GOES imagery?

#13 Postby wxman57 » Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:13 am

MarioProtVI wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Many of us got our satellite data out of Ashville, NC. I wonder why it went down last week? Hmmm...

:lol:

But if that’s why, maybe it’s best to relocate to a less prone TC area, maybe in the Central US perhaps. Just my thought.


There are other sources, like SSEC, but it's not easy to just switch to another source. It costs money, too. Satellite data is still available for forecasting, just not from Ashville.
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Re: What’s going on with GOES imagery?

#14 Postby USTropics » Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:21 am

Fun&GamesUntil wrote:Does this affect forecasting of current storms?


It does not, the actual satellite data is available for numerical models. However, the data center with netcdf files (which is what most of us in the public sector use to create satellite imagery) is having issues still. I believe AWS buckets for GOES data is still available as well (COD is using this https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/)
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Re: What’s going on with GOES imagery?

#15 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:37 am

MarioProtVI wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Many of us got our satellite data out of Ashville, NC. I wonder why it went down last week? Hmmm...

:lol:

But if that’s why, maybe it’s best to relocate to a less prone TC area, maybe in the Central US perhaps. Just my thought.

If you had asked me 2 weeks ago if Asheville was less prone, I would have said "it's in the mountains...of course it is"
I don't think there is such a thing anymore.
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Re: What’s going on with GOES imagery?

#16 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:32 am

Good news as the satelite outage is over and the images are updating properly at Tropical Tidbits, CyclonicWX, Weathernerds etc.
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Re: What’s going on with GOES imagery?

#17 Postby Teban54 » Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:34 am

cycloneye wrote:Good news as the satelite outage is over and the images are updating properly at Tropical Tidbits, CyclonicWX, Weathernerds etc.

While the Helene-induced long shutdown is over, the public imagery still seems to have intermittent issues where it would sometimes be delayed by 1-2 hours, just like what happened earlier this year well before Helene.
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Re: What’s going on with GOES imagery?

#18 Postby Fun&GamesUntil » Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:22 pm

USTropics wrote:
Fun&GamesUntil wrote:Does this affect forecasting of current storms?


It does not, the actual satellite data is available for numerical models. However, the data center with netcdf files (which is what most of us in the public sector use to create satellite imagery) is having issues still. I believe AWS buckets for GOES data is still available as well (COD is using this https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/)


Thank you!
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Re: What’s going on with GOES imagery?

#19 Postby shear_vector » Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:36 pm

https://www.ospo.noaa.gov/operations/goes/status.html

not sure on how to interpret details on the link but seems useful for this thread.

also is there a date for when GOES-19 is operational?
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Re: What’s going on with GOES imagery?

#20 Postby USTropics » Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:39 pm

shear_vector wrote:https://www.ospo.noaa.gov/operations/goes/status.html

not sure on how to interpret details on the link but seems useful for this thread.

also is there a date for when GOES-19 is operational?


That's basically tracking the operational status of all the satellites and the sensors/instruments aboard the satellites. There has been no instrument or transmission failures from the satellites themselves (just the main data center that hosts the data for public use). There have been anomalies (the messages posted at the top) but those lasted ~20 minutes and were quickly corrected.

I believe GOES-19 was just handed over from NASA to NOAA and is currently undergoing post-launch testing and checkout of its instruments and systems. They had a post showing some of the data last week actually of the new instruments that measures solar flares (https://www.nesdis.noaa.gov/news/noaa-s ... instrument). Super cool that it was able to grab data from the last extreme flare that caused the aurorae visible as far south as Texas.

If all goes well it will become operational in April 2025.
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