Low pressure developing over the western Caribbean Sea (Is Invest 97L)

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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean sea (0/70)

#981 Postby StPeteMike » Sat Sep 21, 2024 8:58 pm

Trough digs down more in that run, which I think is more likely. I have never trusted the earlier models that kept a ridge strong over FL and southeast CONUS.

3 days until the start of organization, everything can change.
I just remind everyone that if you don’t have your supplies all set, best to do so now. Anywhere between Fort Myers and Biloxi.
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean sea (0/70)

#982 Postby SFLcane » Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:01 pm

SFLcane wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Another shift to the right by the EC-AIFS:

https://i.postimg.cc/5tGRDwSR/ec-aifs-mslp-pcpn-watl-fh60-138.gif


Hmm..


Speaking of Ai the models are showing one heck of signal for a wave of Africa AI has a monster north of PR.
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean sea (0/70)

#983 Postby gatorcane » Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:02 pm

Satellite images can be deceiving but certainly looks like it could form more to the east than some of the guidance has been showing, based on the 00Z models, NHC might have to extend the area for potential development east into more of the SE GOM and EGOM:

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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean sea (0/70)

#984 Postby SFLcane » Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:13 pm

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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean sea (0/70)

#985 Postby dexterlabio » Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:01 pm

Any chance of Francine 2.0?
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean sea (0/70)

#986 Postby StPeteMike » Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:02 pm

Whatever convection there was seems to be waning and looks to be detach from the main area of development to the west, just east/northeast of Honduras. The trough will eventually help fan the system, but currently is keep it disorganized with the shear to the north.
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean sea (0/60)

#987 Postby hipshot » Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:12 pm

Blown Away wrote:[url]https://i.postimg.cc/Ghf5T6MV/goes16-ir-watl.gif [/url]

ATM it appears the L would set up a little farther E.


I was just about to post that, in fact it seems to have moved a lot off the CA coastline.
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean sea (0/70)

#988 Postby sponger » Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:26 pm

Changing the gen oil tomorrow and starting the slow build up of Ethanol free fuel. I never take lightly a Fall Low South and West of me. Especially with that low shear forecast and good ventilation.
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean sea (0/70)

#989 Postby Stratton23 » Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:33 pm

ICON 00z so far through hour 114 has stronger ridging over the SE US, system in the west central gulf at hour 114 with the cut off low diving down to the SW in texas
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean sea (0/70)

#990 Postby LAF92 » Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:36 pm

Stratton23 wrote:ICON 00z so far through hour 114 has stronger ridging over the SE US, system in the west central gulf at hour 114 with the cut off low diving down to the SW in texas

Looks like it hits the brakes and makes a b line to the big bend area of Florida. As a major hurricane 945mb landfall.
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean sea (0/70)

#991 Postby Stratton23 » Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:47 pm

I have a hard time buying such a hard NE turn like that lol
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean sea (0/70)

#992 Postby DunedinDave » Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:48 pm

The ICON 0z is almost a carbon copy of that crazy 12z GFS run a couple days ago that took a cat 5 Hurricane east into the FLA west coast. Don’t tell me we’re re-opening that idea again.
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean sea (0/70)

#993 Postby LAF92 » Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:49 pm

Stratton23 wrote:I have a hard time buying such a hard NE turn like that lol

Yeah especially if it gets that far west
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean sea (0/70)

#994 Postby Pelicane » Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:51 pm

GFS already looks stronger
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean sea (0/70)

#995 Postby REDHurricane » Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:57 pm

LAF92 wrote:
Stratton23 wrote:ICON 00z so far through hour 114 has stronger ridging over the SE US, system in the west central gulf at hour 114 with the cut off low diving down to the SW in texas

Looks like it hits the brakes and makes a b line to the big bend area of Florida. As a major hurricane 945mb landfall.


Yeah I don't like that at all, ICON has been the most accurate model in the Gulf this year and it's not close (according to my very poor short to medium-term memory, please correct me if I'm wrong on any of these) -- first it nailed Beryl, can't exactly remember how it did for Chris but I think I recall all the models performing pretty equally, then it did a solid job with Debby, and finally it correctly predicted a landfall further to the east than GFS/Euro did up to about 5 days out for Francine. Any storm that has almost 4 entire days to hang out in the Gulf under an upper-level ridge has an extremely high top-end potential outcome, if that wasn't already obvious. It's still too early to get hung up on any particular model run, even ICON, because nothing resembling a real tropical disturbance is even there yet, but it'll be interesting nevertheless to see if the other models trend towards the ICON solution at all over the next ~24 hours and how ICON itself trends as well.
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean sea (0/70)

#996 Postby LAF92 » Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:58 pm

Pelicane wrote:GFS already looks stronger

Shooting the gap around 995mb similar to the 18z run
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean sea (0/70)

#997 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:03 pm

Whoa there, GFS already spinning this up as early as the day after tomorrow.

Looks like models are starting to consider earlier than anticipated development as a legitimate possibility
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean sea (0/70)

#998 Postby Pelicane » Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:06 pm

Looks similar to 18z intensity wise. Just a hair quicker and bit east.
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean sea (0/70)

#999 Postby Owasso » Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:06 pm

Slightly more intense on this run, was gonna add that it looked like it was about a degree further west but it just took a northeastward turn on the last update. Net result is it's ended up being slightly east of the 18z run now
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean sea (0/70)

#1000 Postby Owasso » Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:10 pm

959 mb and a full degree east of 18z run now.
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