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Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#401 Postby BobHarlem » Mon Sep 09, 2024 3:39 pm

Nederlander wrote:
aspen wrote:GOES is back. Structure looks good, but it does seem like it ingested some dry air on top of the typical CCC collapse.
I said this earlier, but was told otherwise....


Don't really see any dry air injestion on the wv, at mid or low levels (click mid/low for wv sat view). Looks more like daytime warming.
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Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#402 Postby Steve » Mon Sep 09, 2024 3:44 pm

Post landfall it looks like the track initially will be almost due north for a while. The NAMs (except 3km which humorously drops it to 930 before landfall) all show a NNE move and then a little bit of a hook NE then a move more toward due north. Our private weather forecaster also noted this in an email.
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Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#403 Postby wx98 » Mon Sep 09, 2024 3:45 pm

Looks like a good analog for path and potential intensity is Edith 1971 (if you delete the southern Caribbean trek and the Cat 5 Central America landfall, on Sept 9 btw). Edith touched the northeast Mexican coastline and then jetted northeastward to a central Louisiana Cat 2 landfall.
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Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#404 Postby tolakram » Mon Sep 09, 2024 3:45 pm

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Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#405 Postby Nederlander » Mon Sep 09, 2024 3:46 pm

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Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#406 Postby jasons2k » Mon Sep 09, 2024 3:47 pm

Stormcenter wrote:Trough will pick it up

jasons2k wrote:MLC is trekking westward on Brownsville radar.

It’s just crazy that a storm that far south and west, this early in September, is forecast to make landfall east over in Louisiana.

I think we all agree on that. I just wouldn’t expect to see this setup before mid September. It’s definitely a more fall-like setup with the jet dipping and pushing the storm east instead of tugging it NNW.
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Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#407 Postby NDG » Mon Sep 09, 2024 3:50 pm

I'm sure a combination of some dry air into into its CoC is what it has given it popping an eye, but that's still an eye to me though it may not be a hurricane in strength yet.

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Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#408 Postby Travorum » Mon Sep 09, 2024 3:52 pm

NDG wrote:I'm sure a combination of some dry air into into its CoC is what it has given it popping an eye, but that's still an eye to me though it may not be a hurricane in strength yet.

https://i.imgur.com/bGfbY90.png


Here's the 37GHz, its getting that cyan ring look.

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Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#409 Postby tolakram » Mon Sep 09, 2024 3:53 pm

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Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#410 Postby Horn1991 » Mon Sep 09, 2024 3:53 pm

wx98 wrote:Looks like a good analog for path and potential intensity is Edith 1971 (if you delete the southern Caribbean trek and the Cat 5 Central America landfall, on Sept 9 btw). Edith touched the northeast Mexican coastline and then jetted northeastward to a central Louisiana Cat 2 landfall.


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Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#411 Postby Stormgodess » Mon Sep 09, 2024 3:54 pm

Landfall intensity just upgraded to Cat 2
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#412 Postby Hurricane2022 » Mon Sep 09, 2024 4:00 pm

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Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#413 Postby WaveBreaking » Mon Sep 09, 2024 4:00 pm

Visible reminds me of an Ammonite shell

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Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#414 Postby xironman » Mon Sep 09, 2024 4:04 pm

It was a malformed mess 18hrs ago. We aren't in Kansas anymore.
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Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#415 Postby Stormgodess » Mon Sep 09, 2024 4:05 pm

A tale of two local station forcast maps

I'm not sure which is better, or which informs the public the most, but the difference can be confusing to the everyday person

[imgur]https://imgur.com/a/p9oZ20i[/imgur]
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Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#416 Postby MGC » Mon Sep 09, 2024 4:05 pm

100mph landfall intensity now forecast. Slight track shift west at 4pm advisory.....MGC
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Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#417 Postby Hurrilurker » Mon Sep 09, 2024 4:11 pm

Organization looks great and coming together rapidly but there's still a huge slot of dry air in there it needs to mix out.
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Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#418 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Sep 09, 2024 4:20 pm

Dry air entrainment during this phase is common, and microwave/radar show that everything under the hood is organizing. Pressure is probably the same or a little lower than the recon pass earlier, guess we’ll see when it gets there. Unless new convection doesn’t form in the eyewall overnight, I don’t think anything we are seeing suggests this to be a weakening storm.
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Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#419 Postby ConvergenceZone » Mon Sep 09, 2024 4:21 pm

MGC wrote:100mph landfall intensity now forecast. Slight track shift west at 4pm advisory.....MGC


It will be interesting to see if they go higher in the future, or if we are approaching the potential cap of this system.
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Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#420 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Mon Sep 09, 2024 4:22 pm

This morning's massive -90C convective blob has collapsed, now showing a more classic spiral shape. Won't take long to see more deep convection fire in the center.

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