Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (Is Invest 90L)

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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (10/10)

#181 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:55 am

Last 3hrs showing a good improvement in the LL vort
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (10/10)

#182 Postby texsn95 » Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:56 am

wxman57 wrote:
texsn95 wrote:Horn Mountain, MC127, reel lay vessel, I need to be there before they hang the riser :froze:


Winds and squalls not that bad in Mississippi Canyon, but weather will deteriorate tomorrow afternoon/evening. Platforms in Eugene Island and Garden Banks reporting gusts 35-40 kts.

I started as a marine forecaster for the Gulf in May of 1980. By December, I was sent off to a jack-up platform off the southern tip of Argentina for 28 day rotations.


Roger that, thanks for the info, hopefully can get out there today.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (10/10)

#183 Postby Frank P » Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:57 am

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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (10/10)

#184 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:59 am

I think NHC may have to tag this area as 90L.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (10/10)

#185 Postby Frank P » Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:01 am

looks very close to being a TD
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (10/10)

#186 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:05 am

Looks like the main feed is a ridge of 5500 CAPE air to the SE
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (10/10)

#187 Postby Tailgater33 » Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:07 am

Conditions at 42019 as of
(8:40 am CDT)
1340 GMT on 09/05/2024:
Unit of Measure: Time Zone:
Click on the graph icon in the table below to see a time series plot of the last five days of that observation.

5-day plot - Wind Direction Wind Direction (WDIR): W ( 270 deg true )
5-day plot - Wind Speed Wind Speed (WSPD): 7.8 kts
5-day plot - Wind Gust Wind Gust (GST): 11.7 kts
5-day plot - Atmospheric Pressure Atmospheric Pressure (PRES): 29.87 in
5-day plot - Water Temperature Water Temperature (WTMP): 85.8 °F
5-day plot - Wind Speed at 10 Meters Wind Speed at 10 meters (WSPD10M): 7.8 kts
5-day plot - Wind Speed at 20 Meters Wind Speed at 20 meters (WSPD20M): 9.7 kts
5-day plot - Wind Speed, Wind Gust and Atmospheric Pressure Combined plot of Wind Speed, Gust, and Air Pressure
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (10/10)

#188 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:09 am

Appears to be setting up for a significant surge of high TPW EPAC air thru the IoT

https://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/ ... anim=html5
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (10/10)

#189 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:12 am

Already has a feeder band setup over the TPW feed and high CAPE ridge.
Seeing low-level Lift-Index at -8.
This may go ballistic
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (10/10)

#190 Postby wxman57 » Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:13 am

HRRR has the low merging with the cold front tomorrow night and passing south of the mouth of the MS as a 35 kt west Gulf low Saturday morning. Clearly frontal by then.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (10/10)

#191 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:16 am

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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (10/10)

#192 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:19 am

Same date, same spot where Harvey went from TD to Cat 4 in 40 hrs
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (10/10)

#193 Postby MONTEGUT_LA » Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:28 am

texsn95 wrote:Wonderful, I'm in Houma this morning and supposed to fly offshore around noon today... :double:


At work on houma's eastside, we got light rain right now, but water in some places are starting to rise. I execpt the city to have street flooding by lunch time. It doesnt take much in houma. South of houma should fair better.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (10/10)

#194 Postby wxman57 » Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:28 am

The difference between now and Harvey is the upper trof digging into the NW Gulf tomorrow, imparting increasing wind shear with dry air spilling offshore. Almost a classic West Gulf Low developing. It starts tropical then goes frontal by late tomorrow.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (10/10)

#195 Postby Tailgater33 » Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:32 am

Wxman 57 would say you this is a TD at this point?
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (10/10)

#196 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:46 am

wxman57 wrote:The difference between now and Harvey is the upper trof digging into the NW Gulf tomorrow, imparting increasing wind shear with dry air spilling offshore. Almost a classic West Gulf Low developing. It starts tropical then goes frontal by late tomorrow.


Trof not digging that deep into the GOM. Anti-cyclone will be on the SE side of the tip of the trof. If the LL Vort gets into that anti-cyclone, I don't need to tell what will happen.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (10/10)

#197 Postby wxman57 » Thu Sep 05, 2024 10:14 am

GCANE wrote:
wxman57 wrote:The difference between now and Harvey is the upper trof digging into the NW Gulf tomorrow, imparting increasing wind shear with dry air spilling offshore. Almost a classic West Gulf Low developing. It starts tropical then goes frontal by late tomorrow.


Trof not digging that deep into the GOM. Anti-cyclone will be on the SE side of the tip of the trof. If the LL Vort gets into that anti-cyclone, I don't need to tell what will happen.


Sure looks like the trof is digging pretty far into the Gulf by tomorrow afternoon/evening. Significantly increased shear and lots of dry air flowing offshore.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2024090506/gfs_uv250_scus_36.png
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (10/10)

#198 Postby wxman57 » Thu Sep 05, 2024 10:16 am

Tailgater33 wrote:Wxman 57 would say you this is a TD at this point?


Hard to confirm without more obs, but it certainly looks like a circulation is present. Such lows were classified as tropical storms in the past. I do think it will become frontal by 36 hrs, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the NHC bump up development chances considerably by 18Z.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (10/10)

#199 Postby Frank P » Thu Sep 05, 2024 10:31 am

I've seen many systems classified at this point. Regardless, convection expanding and pulling moisture from the southern GOM and BOC while looking like it wants to make a go at it..

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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (10/10)

#200 Postby LarryWx » Thu Sep 05, 2024 10:32 am

wxman57 wrote:
Tailgater33 wrote:Wxman 57 would say you this is a TD at this point?


Hard to confirm without more obs, but it certainly looks like a circulation is present. Such lows were classified as tropical storms in the past. I do think it will become frontal by 36 hrs, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the NHC bump up development chances considerably by 18Z.


Kudos to the ICON. No other model has even been close as far as consistently showing a closed surface low getting going around now in the NW Gulf. Folks can see it for themselves by looking at old runs going back many days right now at TT.
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