
2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)
This does have the potential makings for eventual PTC Watches/Warnings and eventual (unnecessary) naming of a short-life 40-45 kt. N.E. quad. gradient-cane. Oh NAM.... we turn our lonely eyes to you....
Hey, I'm personally hopeful for no other reason than to help green up our brown Florida lawns! Gotta look out for some model run to run consistency though

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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)
That’s what I’m banking on. Anything below 60 mph tropical storm that is right-heavy when it comes to precipitation, I will take!
Watch the 0z GFS drop all increased moisture…
Watch the 0z GFS drop all increased moisture…

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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)
06z GFS has a slower-moving system which eventually becomes a TC in the GOM.


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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)
A slower moving system would give more time for the heat ridge to expand and move eastward preventing a northward motion into florida, storm would be forced more NW towards the central or even western gulf coast, just gotta keep watching it
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)
Still not buying the GFS at all. It's all alone in the prediction of a Gulf TS/H. It may be right in predicting some moisture moving across the Gulf next week, but that's about it.
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)
GEFS and EPS are still quite far off from each other and knowing GFS' history I tend to believe more towards the EPS' chances




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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)
From the CAG, Euro has a TC in the EPAC while the GFS has it in the GOM.
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)
Would appear that both the 12s suites of GFS and CMC are both sniffing development around the Yucatan 6-7 day range.
Upper level continental shear appears to be prohibiting factor in both cases.
Upper level continental shear appears to be prohibiting factor in both cases.
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Re: RE: Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)
12 Z Canadian jumps onboard with GFSwxman57 wrote:Still not buying the GFS at all. It's all alone in the prediction of a Gulf TS/H. It may be right in predicting some moisture moving across the Gulf next week, but that's about it.

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Re: RE: Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)
Ivanhater wrote:12 Z Canadian jumps onboard with GFS https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240605/79468a9a516a2c88ae8524ec7fc99d75.jpgwxman57 wrote:Still not buying the GFS at all. It's all alone in the prediction of a Gulf TS/H. It may be right in predicting some moisture moving across the Gulf next week, but that's about it.
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I think that there is a good chance moisture will move across the Gulf toward Florida next week. 12Z GFS is backing off on the TS/H forecast in favor of a weak low.
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)
A non storm is the likely scenario. Hopefully we get a slug of deep tropical moisture pulling up and over Florida to help jump start our rainy season. That appears increasingly likely
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)
Euro looks like it is slowly caving towards the GFS with a weak circulation trying to develop, but instead of florida ita taking whatever “ circulation “ their is or even a strong open wave, further west , its sitting in the NW gulf, but do to what will likey be a very broad system, florida should still see a good amount of rain, unfortunately the GFS and Euro have trended toward the front that supposed to come down and stall, weakening and allowing high pressure to build in over the central US, blocking this system from truely coming ashore in florida, Euro takes it toward florida initially, but then feels the ridge and gets shunted off to the west
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)
Stratton23 wrote:Euro looks like it is slowly caving towards the GFS with a weak circulation trying to develop, but instead of florida ita taking whatever “ circulation “ their is or even a strong open wave, further west , its sitting in the NW gulf, but do to what will likey be a very broad system, florida should still see a good amount of rain, unfortunately the GFS and Euro have trended toward the front that supposed to come down and stall, weakening and allowing high pressure to build in over the central US, blocking this system from truely coming ashore in florida, Euro takes it toward florida initially, but then feels the ridge and gets shunted off to the west
12Z euro 24hr QPF amount forecast shows storms entering the gulf from the Caribbean starting about Tuesday
next week. Looks like most of the precip will be from the eastern quadrants of the surface low but the system persists out past 230 hours so there would be time for a low level center to gradually form.
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)
The new Euro EC-AIFS has a storm in NW GOM, but is at 360 hours.


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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)
WPC and CPC guidance is tilting wet over the Florida peninsula which fits well with climo along with the expected longwave pattern over north America. Probably a slug of tropical juice gets pulled north and northeast ward over FL. At this early point...looking for trends in those products is probably the best course of action.
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)
cycloneye wrote:The new Euro EC-AIFS has a storm in NW GOM, but is at 360 hours.
https://i.imgur.com/QWH5n2t.png
That looks just like the one strong EPS member from 12z, AIFS has been performing great for mid latitude features afaik

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Re: RE: Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)
The atlantic basin isnt ready, we see this every year, lots of early season noise, minimal development. Listen to wxman57. Take this time to prepare, everyone has been warned.skyline385 wrote:cycloneye wrote:The new Euro EC-AIFS has a storm in NW GOM, but is at 360 hours.
https://i.imgur.com/QWH5n2t.png
That looks just like the one strong EPS member from 12z, AIFS has been performing great for mid latitude features afaik
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Re: RE: Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)
jlauderdal wrote:The atlantic basin isnt ready, we see this every year, lots of early season noise, minimal development. Listen to wxman57. Take this time to prepare, everyone has been warned.skyline385 wrote:cycloneye is wrote:The new Euro EC-AIFS has a storm in NW GOM, but is at 360 hours.
https://i.imgur.com/QWH5n2t.png
That looks just like the one strong EPS member from 12z, AIFS has been performing great for mid latitude features afaik
[url]https://i.postimg.cc/B64wb1yJ/image.png [/url]
I’ll admit I was expecting something early in June given the forecasts and how hot the water is already. A lot of times we get something the first half of June and then get nothing until late August.
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)
The rising air phase of the MJO or positive phase will be settling in over the atlantic basin soon, so i do expect to see activity increasing as we get past mid month (13th or so and beyond)
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Re: 2024 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)
Can we now start canceling 2024 or is it too early?



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