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Re: RE: Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#441 Postby caneman » Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:29 pm

Blown Away wrote:
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If a hurricane, west of Appalachicola or a very small slot @Cedar Key or south of Punta Gorda. Those spots are high odds historically for a hurricane moving towards FL West coast. Cedar Key is looking like the spot now, but 18z models started swinging back E so we have plenty of time for big moves.


Climatology can give you a guidance but isn't hard and fast. Tampa Bay dodged Charley, Ian and irma major impacts by a slight shift right. That will end at some point


I just play the odds in situations like this and a hurricane (not TS) moving towards the FL W coast will fall in the 3 areas I highlighted.


Both of us being long time posters, I know that you know that's just pure luck and chance and nothing more. Well... we do have Indians protecting us in Tampa Bay. I'm sure you've heard the stories about our Indian mounds and heritage that protects us. :cheesy:
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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#442 Postby abajan » Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:30 pm

tolakram wrote:saved loop https://i.imgur.com/Imd0Diy.gif

Appears to be drifting SW in that loop. Dr. Cowan explains why this may be happening:

[youtube]https://youtu.be/rHHcfZZzAVw[/youtube]
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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#443 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:37 pm

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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#444 Postby robbielyn » Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:51 pm

LandoWill wrote:My 30 years of watching these storms as a Florida west coast resident, has taught me a few things. Wherever they say it's going on the first few advisories, is never where it actually goes.


THIS!
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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#445 Postby Hurricane Mike » Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:58 pm

Evening video update on TD-10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9xzL_UNJHQ
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#446 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:00 pm

robbielyn wrote:
LandoWill wrote:My 30 years of watching these storms as a Florida west coast resident, has taught me a few things. Wherever they say it's going on the first few advisories, is never where it actually goes.


THIS!
NHC is very transparent about error and as good as nhc is, ian wasnt long ago so be on alert...the angle of approach makes it even more difficult
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#447 Postby Sciencerocks » Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:00 pm

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Re: RE: Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#448 Postby johngaltfla » Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:04 pm

caneman wrote:
Blown Away wrote:
caneman wrote:
Climatology can give you a guidance but isn't hard and fast. Tampa Bay dodged Charley, Ian and irma major impacts by a slight shift right. That will end at some point


I just play the odds in situations like this and a hurricane (not TS) moving towards the FL W coast will fall in the 3 areas I highlighted.


Both of us being long time posters, I know that you know that's just pure luck and chance and nothing more. Well... we do have Indians protecting us in Tampa Bay. I'm sure you've heard the stories about our Indian mounds and heritage that protects us. :cheesy:


The Indian burial mounds are on Siesta Key and no, you may not relocate them to save Tampa. 8-)
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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#449 Postby Landy » Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:07 pm

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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#450 Postby Sciencerocks » Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:10 pm





I am thinking that it is probably a tropical storm with winds of 40 knts and pressure of 1001-1002mbs.
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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#451 Postby Ianswfl » Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:19 pm

Sciencerocks wrote:




I am thinking that it is probably a tropical storm with winds of 40 knts and pressure of 1001-1002mbs.


And more east too. Models shifting back east. Hafs models a big threat to Tampa area. HWRF Cedar Key.
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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#452 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:28 pm

The highest CAPE in the GOM is usually offshore Houston.
Not now. Shifted east to the MS Delta at 7000.
Not a good sign.
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#453 Postby caneman » Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:31 pm

johngaltfla wrote:
caneman wrote:
Blown Away wrote:
I just play the odds in situations like this and a hurricane (not TS) moving towards the FL W coast will fall in the 3 areas I highlighted.


Both of us being long time posters, I know that you know that's just pure luck and chance and nothing more. Well... we do have Indians protecting us in Tampa Bay. I'm sure you've heard the stories about our Indian mounds and heritage that protects us. :cheesy:


The Indian burial mounds are on Siesta Key and no, you may not relocate them to save Tampa. 8-)


We have them here as well in Safety Harbor, St. PETE and more and Indian Rocks is name after them as well. The tribe was named Tocobaga
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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#454 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:32 pm

Vorts are stacked to 200mb. Dang
Just saw this with Hilary
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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#455 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:35 pm

Anticyclone has setup between Cuba and Haiti.
Kicking in a poleward outflow channel
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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#456 Postby SFLcane » Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:47 pm

I actually don’t think it looks that impressive on satellite might see some loops and potential land interaction with Cuba could make this very tricky track wise in my opinion.

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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#457 Postby Sciencerocks » Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:47 pm

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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#458 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:47 pm

Two things on the 00z best track. Winds up to 30kt and pressure down to 1005 mbs.

AL, 10, 2023082700, , BEST, 0, 212N, 863W, 30, 1005, TD
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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#459 Postby Keldeo1997 » Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:47 pm

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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#460 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:48 pm

The NHC track in the GOM keeps this in the anticyclone wave break formed from the UL trof that will be anchored along the TX/LA border
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