Texas Summer 2023

[Iceresistance]

Heat index of 108 and we're not even to the hottest part of the day yet I mean the temps haven't been that crazy tbh. We've only hit 100 once(last year 27 days) but this humidity has got to go

Oilton had a Heat Index of 121°F and Pawnee at 120°F earlier today, dear god.


For reference, Shawnee maxed out at 114°F and Tulsa at 117°F.

[Brent]

Heat index of 108 and we're not even to the hottest part of the day yet I mean the temps haven't been that crazy tbh. We've only hit 100 once(last year 27 days) but this humidity has got to go

Oilton had a Heat Index of 121°F and Pawnee at 120°F earlier today, dear god.


For reference, Shawnee maxed out at 114°F and Tulsa at 117°F.

The dewpoint is 80. I mean yeah we've been way hotter on air temperature before for sure last year or in 2011 or 1936 where the all time high is from here but I don't think you can find a much worse combo with dewpoints like this. I'm pretty sure the only way we could do a long stretch of 100s would be lower dewpoints

[Iceresistance]

Heat index of 108 and we're not even to the hottest part of the day yet I mean the temps haven't been that crazy tbh. We've only hit 100 once(last year 27 days) but this humidity has got to go

Oilton had a Heat Index of 121°F and Pawnee at 120°F earlier today, dear god.


For reference, Shawnee maxed out at 114°F and Tulsa at 117°F.

The dewpoint is 80. I mean yeah we've been way hotter on air temperature before for sure last year or in 2011 or 1936 where the all time high is from here but I don't think you can find a much worse combo with dewpoints like this. I'm pretty sure the only way we could do a long stretch of 100s would be lower dewpoints

This is just absurd, it's June all over again!

https://s11.gifyu.com/images/SWI8I.png

[Cpv17]

Oilton had a Heat Index of 121°F and Pawnee at 120°F earlier today, dear god.


For reference, Shawnee maxed out at 114°F and Tulsa at 117°F.

The dewpoint is 80. I mean yeah we've been way hotter on air temperature before for sure last year or in 2011 or 1936 where the all time high is from here but I don't think you can find a much worse combo with dewpoints like this. I'm pretty sure the only way we could do a long stretch of 100s would be lower dewpoints

This is just absurd, it's June all over again!
https://s11.gifyu.com/images/SWI8I.png
https://s11.gifyu.com/images/SWI8I.png

Dew points that high that far north is otherworldly. Makes me think bigger picture. As in something just ain’t right.

[TropicalTundra]

The dewpoint is 80. I mean yeah we've been way hotter on air temperature before for sure last year or in 2011 or 1936 where the all time high is from here but I don't think you can find a much worse combo with dewpoints like this. I'm pretty sure the only way we could do a long stretch of 100s would be lower dewpoints

This is just absurd, it's June all over again!
https://s11.gifyu.com/images/SWI8I.png
https://s11.gifyu.com/images/SWI8I.png

Dew points that high that far north is otherworldly. Makes me think bigger picture. As in something just ain’t right.

Maybe those ginormous solar flares are doing something… they’re putting up warnings for tomorrow

[Iceresistance]

This is just absurd, it's June all over again!
https://s11.gifyu.com/images/SWI8I.png
https://s11.gifyu.com/images/SWI8I.png

Dew points that high that far north is otherworldly. Makes me think bigger picture. As in something just ain’t right.

Maybe those ginormous solar flares are doing something… they’re putting up warnings for tomorrow

Yep, it's the 2nd Heat Warning of the Year.

And it also could be doing with the abnormally high WV from the Tonga Volcano...

[Brent]

Dew points that high that far north is otherworldly. Makes me think bigger picture. As in something just ain’t right.

Maybe those ginormous solar flares are doing something… they’re putting up warnings for tomorrow

Yep, it's the 2nd Heat Warning of the Year.

And it also could be doing with the abnormally high WV from the Tonga Volcano...

It's so bad here they extended it til 10pm don't think I've ever seen it after dark before. I mean this is beach air 8 hours inland

Oh and don't even look at next week... Warmer lows than this event

[JDawg512]

Seeing a lot of answers but not the obvious one. Co2 levels due to human pollution. This is not something that is just mysteriously happening. We knew this would happen as far back as the 1960s, even predicted that it would if the world did not make the needed changes and of course humans being as stubborn and hard headed, very little was done. It's not rocket science people, we learn about Co2 greenhouse gas in elementary school. Sure there are natural cycles in place, but it can no longer be denied that we humans are exacerbating the problem. I studied climatology and I've mentioned this before only to be chastised for even bringing it up so that is a main reason why I rarely post but someone has to bring this point into the equation because its simply being ignored and sidestepped. If you think things look ugly now, you haven't seen anything yet.


On that note I will take my leave until I can get some decent rain to fall over the Rain Cave. Stay cool and safe everyone during this dangerous heatwave.

[aggiecutter]

I'm sure this will surprise a lot of people, but there has been no increase in the frequency or intensity of heat waves or the past 120 years in the lower 48. The only real true spike was during the dust bowl days in the early and mid 30's. Before and after the dust bowl days there have been periodic heat waves, but not any different than what occurred between 1900 and 1930.


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[itglobalsecure]

EPA shows clear increase in heat wave duration, frequency, and length of the heat wave season.

https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/ ... heat-waves

[EnnisTx]

I have studied this subject most of my long life, but no one ever mentions this information is derived from Major Metropolitan Cities that are now mainly Concrete and asphalt streets including the building materials for structures and all the rooftops. It takes longer to cool down in those areas. I know I'll probably be scolded for saying this, but there's to much fear mongering going on by the green deal folks that use more fossil fuels in a day than most people do in a week to travel around and say we're the problem. Sorry not sorry we need fossil fuels to survive.

[Tejas89]

Florida’s coastal waters have been breaking records and in the mid to upper 90s, and starting to cause panic about the coral reefs. The very warm gulf especially is pumping massive moisture into the air over the southern plains.

Even mentioning that fact gets politically delicate but the reality is we are warming the atmosphere and it’s holding more water compounding an already hot pattern. And when it does rain… it means business.

[aggiecutter]

The graphs in the link above that show an increase in frequency and intensity of heatwaves was taken in 50 select metropolitan areas between 1960 and 2020. Have you ever heard of the term Urban Heat Islands. Compare a picture of Dallas Texas in 1960 to one of 2020. There is a lot more concrete than in 1960 contributing to the heat island effect.

Now, here is a graph from the same Website that you linked above. It includes the entire lower 48, not just the metropolitan areas. It looks just like the one I posted above:

[HockeyTx82]

I have studied this subject most of my long life, but no one ever mentions this information is derived from Major Metropolitan Cities that are now mainly Concrete and asphalt streets including the building materials for structures and all the rooftops. It takes longer to cool down in those areas. I know I'll probably be scolded for saying this, but there's to much fear mongering going on by the green deal folks that use more fossil fuels in a day than most people do in a week to travel around and say we're the problem. Sorry not sorry we need fossil fuels to survive.

Follow the money.........

[cheezyWXguy]

I have studied this subject most of my long life, but no one ever mentions this information is derived from Major Metropolitan Cities that are now mainly Concrete and asphalt streets including the building materials for structures and all the rooftops. It takes longer to cool down in those areas. I know I'll probably be scolded for saying this, but there's to much fear mongering going on by the green deal folks that use more fossil fuels in a day than most people do in a week to travel around and say we're the problem. Sorry not sorry we need fossil fuels to survive.

Follow the money.........

This isn’t the argument you think it is, nor is it scientific by any means.

Sticking to actual data, using heat waves as a metric is problematic because defined as a period of temperatures deviating above the norm. It doesn’t account for how the norm has changed over time.

Let’s say hypothetically, a heat wave were defined by temperatures 10 degrees above normal, and the average temp for today in Dallas in the dust bowl was 90, but this year the average was 100. To have a heat wave back then you’d have to have a temp of 100, but today you’d have to make it to 110. If this were to occur, the magnitude of the heatwaves would stay the same even though the average rose 10 degrees.

[Ntxw]

I have studied this subject most of my long life, but no one ever mentions this information is derived from Major Metropolitan Cities that are now mainly Concrete and asphalt streets including the building materials for structures and all the rooftops. It takes longer to cool down in those areas. I know I'll probably be scolded for saying this, but there's to much fear mongering going on by the green deal folks that use more fossil fuels in a day than most people do in a week to travel around and say we're the problem. Sorry not sorry we need fossil fuels to survive.

Follow the money.........

This isn’t the argument you think it is, nor is it scientific by any means.

Sticking to actual data, using heat waves as a metric is problematic because defined as a period of temperatures deviating above the norm. It doesn’t account for how the norm has changed over time.

Let’s say hypothetically, a heat wave were defined by temperatures 10 degrees above normal, and the average temp for today in Dallas in the dust bowl was 90, but this year the average was 100. To have a heat wave back then you’d have to have a temp of 100, but today you’d have to make it to 110. If this were to occur, the magnitude of the heatwaves would stay the same even though the average rose 10 degrees.

Averages are rising in most of the WFOs. You are correct, a little above normal now, would've been much more in the past relative to the 30 year moving averages. This is also a factor as to why El Nino and La Nina's have been behaving somewhat much more different, more frequently, than past analogs causing unpredictability. ENSO anomalies are also a moving average.

The 3 year La Ninas didn't make much of a difference to cool.

[rwfromkansas]

I remember as a kid reading a book from the 70s I think arguing for a new ice age. It was still in the library in the late 90s.

[Brent]

Paul's Valley had a heat index of 126 which is apparently a record for the Oklahoma mesonet

We actually had clouds here in Tulsa and it didn't seem quite as extreme as yesterday although it was still dreadful for sure

[ElectricStorm]

Paul's Valley had a heat index of 126 which is apparently a record for the Oklahoma mesonet

We actually had clouds here in Tulsa and it didn't seem quite as extreme as yesterday although it was still dreadful for sure

I went out and mowed a couple hours ago and this might have been the worst humidity I've ever felt. There was a day in 2020 that was awful but I think this might have been worse. Unreal

[Brent]

Paul's Valley had a heat index of 126 which is apparently a record for the Oklahoma mesonet

We actually had clouds here in Tulsa and it didn't seem quite as extreme as yesterday although it was still dreadful for sure

I went out and mowed a couple hours ago and this might have been the worst humidity I've ever felt. There was a day in 2020 that was awful but I think this might have been worse. Unreal

I can remember a really bad day in June last year(I think Tulsa had a HI of 114 or 115 then) but yeah this is definitely probably the worst I've ever felt and I used to live in Alabama 4 hours from the beach... Bad humidity has always been a part of my summers