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#21 Postby stormy » Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:05 pm

my oldest had gone her 1st 5 years to private, in 6th i decided to go public. i could not believe the abuse that my daughter had to go thru. like , welcome to the real world and called weird and gay nerd. with teacher right there. after about 5 weeks ( she had told me nothing , her best friend came to me in tear) i went to school, i was alone and 5 teacher were in the meeting, i couldnt believe they ganged up on me and one kept rolling her eyes at me. i could go on for days what happen to her. i have a degree in teaching and i had never seen this before. at xmas i took her out and she is homeschooling. i have alot of friends who r teachers and support what i did. my daughter is whole again and loves life. i blame tenure for this. the board would not even touch this, they donot like to rock the boat.
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#22 Postby breeze » Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:38 pm

I'm from the "spare the rod - spoil the child" school.
I do not feel that I was ever abused by the teachers
who attempted to correct my rowdy behavior with that
old wooden paddle! Of course, I never had bruises -
I just "got the message" in an embarrassing kind of way!
But - I learned a thing or two - respect and discipline.
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#23 Postby Skywatch_NC » Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:42 pm

It's really sad that some parents file lawsuits these days if "Corporal Punishment" is applied to their kids.

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#24 Postby mf_dolphin » Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:46 pm

breeze wrote:I'm from the "spare the rod - spoil the child" school.
I do not feel that I was ever abused by the teachers
who attempted to correct my rowdy behavior with that
old wooden paddle! Of course, I never had bruises -
I just "got the message" in an embarrassing kind of way!
But - I learned a thing or two - respect and discipline.


AMEN Breeze! A couple of well placed bobs on the ole tail is an attention getter :-)
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#25 Postby OtherHD » Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:47 pm

Well it should come as a shock to none of you that I disagree with corporal punishment. :roll: Maybe that will change in 20 years. :lol:
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#26 Postby mf_dolphin » Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:48 pm

It will change after your first child LOL ;-)
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#27 Postby sunnyday » Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:50 pm

Some classrooms are a real battlefront these days. Most of the time, the rude kids come from rude parents. Some children, the number incrasing yearly (young adults included) were taught no respect at home and don't intend to show any to teachers, principals, etc. Nobody fully understands unless he/she has been in the classroom with bad atttitudes, threats, etc. Of course, it would be ideal if teachers never lost their tempers, but they would have to be a superheroes not to sometimes.
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#28 Postby stormy » Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:51 pm

i believe in punishment when it is deserved. i had nuns, i was raised in boarding school with nun. a place called villa madonnna in covington ky. they liked rulers and their hands to smack. but i dont believe in verbal abuse, when they know a child is quiet and wont say a word.
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#29 Postby Skywatch_NC » Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:52 pm

HD, maybe the Columbine massacre could have been avoided for ie, if kids like Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold had been better disciplined by both their parents and teachers.

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#30 Postby OtherHD » Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:59 pm

Skywatch_NC wrote:HD, maybe the Columbine massacre could have been avoided for ie, if kids like Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold had been better disciplined by both their parents and teachers.

Eric


Parents certainly. I just don't think it's the teacher's place to apply force to their students. That is solely the parent's responsibility. The teachers are there to educate the kids. Maybe I'm biased because I'm still in school and I didn't grow up in the stone age :lol: but if you use physical force to discipline kids, it should only be done by the parents. IN MY OPINION..
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#31 Postby ColdFront77 » Mon Nov 17, 2003 2:03 am

That makes sense to me. Parents raise their children, teachers (aside from home schooling, of course), do not.

Sometimes a student may not even know they are doing anything wrong and they will get hit, i.e. bruised because of it?
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#32 Postby Skywatch_NC » Mon Nov 17, 2003 7:26 pm

Reason why there's violence in schools these days...because teachers aren't "allowed" to enfore discipline much anymore if any. So in turn the students tend to "commandeer" the classrooms. :roll:

Great debate here in this topic! :)

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#33 Postby wx247 » Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:20 pm

sunnyday wrote:Some classrooms are a real battlefront these days. Most of the time, the rude kids come from rude parents. Some children, the number incrasing yearly (young adults included) were taught no respect at home and don't intend to show any to teachers, principals, etc. Nobody fully understands unless he/she has been in the classroom with bad atttitudes, threats, etc. Of course, it would be ideal if teachers never lost their tempers, but they would have to be a superheroes not to sometimes.


Sunnyday... I have been there although I am not a full fledged teacher yet. My point in starting this topic was not to give teachers a bad name. I am planning to be one in a few years, but that parents need to know the signs of abuse by teachers. I do not have a problem with corporal punishment, which isn't even what the topic is discussing we just took it there ;) , but about abuse by teachers which DOES happen. There is a line (like someone previously mentioned) between punishing and abusing. The information I present was for parent who suspect their child's teacher might be doing the latter.
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