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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1261 Postby opticsguy » Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:37 pm

Iceresistance wrote:Remember that I said that the craziest models would try to go for 1080 mb Arctic HP? Well, the 12z JMA did just that. :lol:



31.9 inches of Mercury. There goes your barometer
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1262 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:38 pm

opticsguy wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:Remember that I said that the craziest models would try to go for 1080 mb Arctic HP? Well, the 12z JMA did just that. :lol:



31.9 inches of Mercury. There goes your barometer

I'm sure that someone is going to get sick from that stupidly high pressure! :eek:
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1263 Postby orangeblood » Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:39 pm

Pay attention to the core LP anomaly over Iowa in the Euro Ens Mean for late next week…if that begins to shift southwest over next several runs toward its operational, than this could get really serious with heavy precip and extreme cold. Otherwise, probably just a very cold/dry Christmas holiday

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1264 Postby Brent » Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:39 pm

Tulsa is already concerned and it's not even inside the forecast yet :double:

The
increasing forecast focus will be on the potential for arctic air
spilling into the western and central CONUS mid to late next week.
Guidance expectantly varies greatly at this time range but the
potential for the cold air does warrant attention.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1265 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:41 pm

Brent wrote:Tulsa is already concerned and it's not even inside the forecast yet :double:

The
increasing forecast focus will be on the potential for arctic air
spilling into the western and central CONUS mid to late next week.
Guidance expectantly varies greatly at this time range but the
potential for the cold air does warrant attention.

So is Norman!

Cold temperatures should continue next week as a lobe of the polar
vortex drops into the Great Lakes and stagnates the pattern. There
appears to be a low-end signal for rain Sunday and Monday, with
perhaps more substantial chances for precipitation after the end of
the forecast period.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1266 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:43 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
Brent wrote:Tulsa is already concerned and it's not even inside the forecast yet :double:

The
increasing forecast focus will be on the potential for arctic air
spilling into the western and central CONUS mid to late next week.
Guidance expectantly varies greatly at this time range but the
potential for the cold air does warrant attention.

So is Norman!

Cold temperatures should continue next week as a lobe of the polar
vortex drops into the Great Lakes and stagnates the pattern. There
appears to be a low-end signal for rain Sunday and Monday, with
perhaps more substantial chances for precipitation after the end of
the forecast period.



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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1267 Postby CaptinCrunch » Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:44 pm

Texas Snowman wrote:
Quixotic wrote:It will not be ‘83 again. I don’t think people appreciate just how long it was cold. That said, might want to start worrying about the grid again.


I certainly appreciate how cold it was and how long it was cold. I was a senior in high school that year. We tried to go duck hunting on Lake Texoma during that arctic outbreak and the ice was so thick in the shallow cove we were going to set our decoys in that myself and two grown men couldn’t even get it to crack.


Most consecutive hours below freezing: 295 (7 am Dec 18 - 2 pm Dec 30, 1983)
Most consecutive hours at or below freezing: 295 (7 am Dec 18 - 2 pm Dec 30, 1983)
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1268 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:46 pm

orangeblood wrote:Pay attention to the core LP anomaly over Iowa in the Euro Ens Mean for late next week…if that begins to shift southwest over next several runs toward its operational, than this could get really serious with heavy precip and extreme cold. Otherwise, probably just a very cold/dry Christmas holiday

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/ecmwf-ensemble-avg/namer/z500_anom/1670932800/1671732000-DamQJG1zpe0.png


Hmmmm... it already seems a bit east given that set up. Whew the hi-res portions of following this are going to get fun.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1269 Postby Cpv17 » Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:46 pm

orangeblood wrote:Pay attention to the core LP anomaly over Iowa in the Euro Ens Mean for late next week…if that begins to shift southwest over next several runs toward its operational, than this could get really serious with heavy precip and extreme cold. Otherwise, probably just a very cold/dry Christmas holiday

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/ecmwf-ensemble-avg/namer/z500_anom/1670932800/1671732000-DamQJG1zpe0.png


Yeah that’s a huge difference between the EPS and OP.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1270 Postby Cpv17 » Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:48 pm

Well the CPC shifted slightly west today compared to yesterday with their temperature outlook.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1271 Postby orangeblood » Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:51 pm

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
orangeblood wrote:Pay attention to the core LP anomaly over Iowa in the Euro Ens Mean for late next week…if that begins to shift southwest over next several runs toward its operational, than this could get really serious with heavy precip and extreme cold. Otherwise, probably just a very cold/dry Christmas holiday

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/ecmwf-ensemble-avg/namer/z500_anom/1670932800/1671732000-DamQJG1zpe0.png


Hmmmm... it already seems a bit east given that set up. Whew the hi-res portions of following this are going to get fun.


Op is the outlier at this point but given the nature of these 500mb anomalies, not writing it off
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1272 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:55 pm

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
Brent wrote:Tulsa is already concerned and it's not even inside the forecast yet :double:

The
increasing forecast focus will be on the potential for arctic air
spilling into the western and central CONUS mid to late next week.
Guidance expectantly varies greatly at this time range but the
potential for the cold air does warrant attention.

So is Norman!

Cold temperatures should continue next week as a lobe of the polar
vortex drops into the Great Lakes and stagnates the pattern. There
appears to be a low-end signal for rain Sunday and Monday, with
perhaps more substantial chances for precipitation after the end of
the forecast period.



If there's one thing Sooners are good for, its Meteorology. :lol:

That is what I'm going to OU for! :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1273 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:58 pm

Is there anyone here living near Shreveport, LA? The city is under a PDS Tornado Warning
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1274 Postby Cpv17 » Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:02 pm

Iceresistance wrote:Is there anyone here living near Shreveport, LA? The city is under a PDS Tornado Warning


I’m seeing lots of storms with hook potential on radar.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1275 Postby sphelps8681 » Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:13 pm

Portastorm wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:We're likely going to be seeing an extended period of time with temperatures below freezing across much of Texas around Christmas. Let's hope ERCOT is better prepared this time around. I've heard that they are, but I won't believe it until I see it. I definitely don't want to be without power for several days again with brutally cold temperatures. Not fun at all.


We had rolling blackouts here in East Tx and it sucked. Luckily we have a fireplace.

Agree 1000%! The February 2021 Snowpocalypse and not having water for a week (I was lucky to have power, ironically enough because I live near a water treatment plant) diminished my love of Arctic outbreaks into Texas. Sure hope the state's power grid holds.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1276 Postby wxman57 » Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:23 pm

weatherdude1108 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:For those of you who live way up north in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area, here's what the 12Z GFS has in store for you. No precip, just cold dry air. Again, not my forecast just raw GFS data. Cold, but not historic cold. Sweater weather.

http://wxman57.com/images/DFWGFS12ZDec13.JPG

http://wxman57.com/images/DFWGFSX12ZDec13.JPG


Can you run one of these for Austin?


Here you go:
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1277 Postby bubba hotep » Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:24 pm

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Brutal.

The coldest permanently inhabited settlement on Earth, Oymyakon (Russia), just dropped to an unforgiving -61.0°C (-77.8°F).

One of the coldest moments in recorded history in this part pf the world for this early in the winter.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1278 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:24 pm

The Arctic HPs have trended weaker on 18z GFS compared to 12z GFS.

EDIT: Nevermind that! 1064 mb in SW Canada!?
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1279 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:30 pm

Iceresistance wrote:The Arctic HPs have trended weaker on 18z GFS compared to 12z GFS.

EDIT: Nevermind that! 1064 mb in SW Canada!?


1065 and 1066 behind it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1280 Postby Ntxw » Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:32 pm

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:The Arctic HPs have trended weaker on 18z GFS compared to 12z GFS.

EDIT: Nevermind that! 1064 mb in SW Canada!?


1065 and 1066 behind it.


Noted earlier, now we start getting into range where record pressures start becoming frequent over lower 48.
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