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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#281 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:24 am

The GFS is 2-3 hours late because of the network problems, must've been a big one.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#282 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:30 am

This would certainly be lights out for millions across South Florida.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#283 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:42 am

SFLcane wrote:This would certainly be lights out for millions across South Florida.

https://i.postimg.cc/NMGBnKJ6/ecmwf.gif

I noticed the timing has lowered from 10/1 to 9/29...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#284 Postby Spacecoast » Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:43 am

Blown Away wrote:


I'm always puzzled when the GFS (AVN2) is the far W outlier in a model run, especially when the Euro (AEMI) is much farther E.

Anybody got thoughts on this?


AVN2 is the 12hr interpolated version of the GFS (AVN0)
AEMI is the GEFS ensemble mean, (not Euro) which sometimes aligns with AVN0, but not always. GEFS runs a different, earlier version.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#285 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:53 am

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Shift east Tcvn..

TVCN is NHC default track, they need a really good reason to deviate from it. If you are near the TVCN line, you have trouble brewing.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#286 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:54 am

Just a bit windy across South Florida on the Euro. This event would rival that of wilma for most of South Florida.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#287 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:02 am

06z EPS.. You can see the growing cluster of members over Cuba and Cayman islands.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#288 Postby Spacecoast » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:08 am


Does that look like a decent west shift from 0z?
EDIT: Yes, it does...
Comparison 0z to 6z...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#289 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:08 am

SFLcane wrote:Just a bit windy across South Florida on the Euro. This event would rival that of wilma for most of South Florida.

https://i.postimg.cc/YCTQqcGV/ecmgust.png

We have afternoon showers that were stronger than that. :lol:

In all seriousness, still far out in time so this will change.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#290 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:14 am

AutoPenalti wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Just a bit windy across South Florida on the Euro. This event would rival that of wilma for most of South Florida.

https://i.postimg.cc/YCTQqcGV/ecmgust.png

We have afternoon showers that were stronger than that. :lol:

In all seriousness, still far out in time so this will change.


I can't see how this gets far north in the gulf without getting yanked eastward sooner rather then later IF the euro is right.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#291 Postby blp » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:21 am

Ensembles mean continue to be on the east side of the operational.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#292 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:45 am

blp wrote:Ensembles mean continue to be on the east side of the operational.

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1192e85e3a2af9c1776dcbbe1fe31b5b8613ed60b276ac861ffec94775e39d89.png


yea, ensemble mean will not agree with OP and continues to be on the east side.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#293 Postby wxman57 » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:46 am

SFLcane wrote:


Shift east Tcvn..


Note that the TVCN likely missed the 6Z GFS data, which is why it's farther east.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#294 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:48 am

wxman57 wrote:
SFLcane wrote:


Shift east Tcvn..


Note that the TVCN likely missed the 6Z GFS data, which is why it's farther east.


Talk to us about South Florida? What is your take on the 00z Euro?

Appreciate your insight.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#295 Postby underthwx » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:50 am

wxman57 wrote:
SFLcane wrote:


Shift east Tcvn..


Note that the TVCN likely missed the 6Z GFS data, which is why it's farther east.


Do you mean it's, for lack of a better term, a bogus run, or lacking data?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#296 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:52 am

underthwx wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
Shift east Tcvn..


Note that the TVCN likely missed the 6Z GFS data, which is why it's farther east.


Do you mean it's, for lack of a better term, a bogus run, or lacking data?


There was a outage this morning that likely factored why the TVCN may have missed the 6z GFS run, which also factored why it shifted east even more.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#297 Postby skyline385 » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:52 am

Weenie jokes aside, todays SHIPS is a sign of how favorable the conditions for 98L could potentially be.

 https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1572598639918485505





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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#298 Postby boca » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:52 am

So I shift west is most likely? It seems like the panhandle is ground zero with the models
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#299 Postby Steve » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:55 am

SFLcane wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Just a bit windy across South Florida on the Euro. This event would rival that of wilma for most of South Florida.

https://i.postimg.cc/YCTQqcGV/ecmgust.png

We have afternoon showers that were stronger than that. :lol:

In all seriousness, still far out in time so this will change.


I can't see how this gets far north in the gulf without getting yanked eastward sooner rather then later IF the euro is right.

https://i.postimg.cc/gj5JpZNZ/ecmtt.gif


It's 8 days out. It's not going to be 100% right. What you can or should be able to see is high pressure building back over the top though that doesn't really happen all that much later in the year - more of an earlier in the season dynamic. I'd agree that the likelihood of a NE pull makes sense, but I'm not basing that off an upper model that far out - not the specifics anyway.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#300 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:56 am

boca wrote:So I shift west is most likely? It seems like the panhandle is ground zero with the models


The entire eastern gulf including Florida is fair game in my opinion.
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