WHO PAYS TAXES, and who deserves a tax cut?

[j]

I've always been for a flat tax or some morph version. Re-distribution of wealth = Communism.

[Stephanie]

If the Government was not involved then I'm willing to bet private organizations will step in with better results.

With the way I feel about private organizations these days (aka corporations), I'd be afraid that the funds would be embezzled or some of it would be ear-marked to the CEO as a bonus.

I have always said that the government spends $5 in order to figure out how to give $1 worth of care to the needy.

Efficiency is not their best trait, that's for sure!

[sunnyday]

The poor deserve a tax cut....

[Stephanie]

The poor deserve a tax cut....

I think that if there was a flat tax, there will be a balance. Everyone should pay their fair share.

[azsnowman]

I'm in the top 5% bracket and it FROSTS my @$$ to NO END that we pay over 53.25%

*As he FALLS out of his chairs and picks himself up* OMG.......Opera Ghost, I CANNOT believe this, we ACTUALLY agree on something....a flat 10% across the board tax for EVERY SINGLE person. That would mean even the ILLEGAL ALIENS would have to pay A flat 10% tax on food, a 15% flat luxury tax.......my, what a WONDERFUL place this would be!

Dennis

[stormchazer]

The poor deserve a tax cut....

THEY DON'T PAY TAXES. A "tax cut" assumes you pay taxes to begin with. 10% from nothing is always nothing. Unless you are a liberal. Do you know that if you include entitlements (WELFARE), the average "poor" person makes $18,000.00 a year. Not a grand amount of money but it is tax-free income. The real poor oversees would love to see that much.

[Stephanie]

I'm in the top 5% bracket and it FROSTS my @$$ to NO END that we pay over 53.25%

*As he FALLS out of his chairs and picks himself up* OMG.......Opera Ghost, I CANNOT believe this, we ACTUALLY agree on something....a flat 10% across the board tax for EVERY SINGLE person. That would mean even the ILLEGAL ALIENS would have to pay A flat 10% tax on food, a 15% flat luxury tax.......my, what a WONDERFUL place this would be!

Dennis

I does happen on occassion Dennis!!

Stormchaser - I know this was brought up a few months bacck when the last tax cut went into effect. People that had children were able to look forward to receiving about $400 (per child?) since the tax credit was increased. There was a discussion regarding whether those that don't pay taxes because they don't make enough should get the check also. I say NO because it's a credit against taxes already paid. Enough is enough!

[blizzard]

Miracles never cease to amaze me, I agree too about the Flat rate tax. Eliminate deductions, credits, loopholes and all that other fancy crap that keeps the IRS busy.

[opera ghost]

*Laughs* I already said I'm only a liberal when it suits me

3 years ago (Jsut to put inflation in it's perspective) I moved out on a 17,500$ salary and worked my *tail* off to get food on the table for me and the cat (I hadn't learned very good finances yet) Even then I was paying taxes... and not bitching about it.

Sure the poor could use more money- everyone could. But that doesn't mean I inherently deserved a better taxation rate than my parents, who were struggling just as much to support thier parents, thier youngest, and a mortgage... It means that I needed to either get my *tail* off the couch and fight to get a better job- or I needed to learn to live with what I had. (I stuck with my job on the promise of a raise and I'm now comfortably making much more than that)

My dad invested his entire life into self employment- draggging my mom, me and sister through *hades* and everything but foodstamps and he finally succeeded 2 years ago. Now dad has a sucessful small bussiness but thier quality of life has barely raised despite the additional income- because they're paying so much more in taxes.

And guys- liberals take math classes too. Let's try not the generalize

[azsnowman]

Opera Ghost......PLEASE watch your language here, this "IS" a family site FYI, I am going to EDIT your post. Thank you for your cooperation in advance!

Dennis

[stormy]

at a young age i recieved ss because of my dad , he died, it helped out with college, my mother never touched it. we are in the high 10%, and i hate to see what comes out of my husband paycheck. i willl go for FLAT TAX.

[opera ghost]

Opera Ghost......PLEASE watch your language here, this "IS" a family site FYI, I am going to EDIT your post. Thank you for your cooperation in advance!

Dennis

My sincere apologies. I'm usually much better at watching my language and I'll try not to let it slip again

[azsnowman]

Thank you Opera Ghost I've lost my temper a few times "LOL!" and have let a few words slip out. Take for instance, when I broke my thumb with a hammer last Sunday, the things I said would have made a drunken salior on shore leave blush!

Dennis

[stormchazer]

*Laughs* I already said I'm only a liberal when it suits me

3 years ago (Jsut to put inflation in it's perspective) I moved out on a 17,500$ salary and worked my *tail* off to get food on the table for me and the cat (I hadn't learned very good finances yet) Even then I was paying taxes... and not bitching about it.

Sure the poor could use more money- everyone could. But that doesn't mean I inherently deserved a better taxation rate than my parents, who were struggling just as much to support thier parents, thier youngest, and a mortgage... It means that I needed to either get my *tail* off the couch and fight to get a better job- or I needed to learn to live with what I had. (I stuck with my job on the promise of a raise and I'm now comfortably making much more than that)

My dad invested his entire life into self employment- draggging my mom, me and sister through *hades* and everything but foodstamps and he finally succeeded 2 years ago. Now dad has a sucessful small bussiness but thier quality of life has barely raised despite the additional income- because they're paying so much more in taxes.

And guys- liberals take math classes too. Let's try not the generalize

Agreed...I was refering to Dems arguement, during the Clinton era when Rep. controlled Congress, that increasing School Lunch spending by 4.5% instead of the standard cost of inflation 6% (whether there was inflation or not) was a blatant cut of the School Lunch Program budget. Only Dems could argue that an increase is a cut. Funky math I guess.