long range winter forecast for st.louis?

[mrfreeze]

when will we see our first snow possibly? how much snow could we get this winter? and finally will temps be mild or cold?

one of our tv weathermen is giving his on thursday night. he had a phone number to call the last four digits spelled out snow. when the anchorman said ''is that a hint''? the weatherman said' ''not necessarily'' my thinking is were not getting much. that was my hint when he said that.

by the way calling the number won't give you the winter forecast. of course he's going to make you watch to find out. by the way he pretty much nailed last winter.

[JCT777]

I would think your first snow would be in December. I believe this upcoming winter should be at least decent for cold/snow in your area.