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Re: Texas Spring 2022

#421 Postby rwfromkansas » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:59 am

SPC isn't budging on northeast of metro, so I think today is dry for me. Again. Missed two chances in a row.
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Re: Texas Spring 2022

#422 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:01 am

Reed Timmer is heading towards Norman, he said that soundings indicate a faster-than-expected moisture plume may cause some BIG Hail, Norman may get plummeted again by another Hailstorm.
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Re: Texas Spring 2022

#423 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:02 am

On the flip side, there is a Extreme Fire Threat for Western Texas today.
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Re: Texas Spring 2022

#424 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:04 am

This is what Mike Morgan is saying, he's siding with the SPC for a low tornado threat thankfully.

 https://twitter.com/MikeMorganKFOR/status/1504212990824001538


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Re: Texas Spring 2022

#425 Postby ElectricStorm » Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:06 am

Iceresistance wrote:Reed Timmer is heading towards Norman, he said that soundings indicate a faster-than-expected moisture plume may cause some BIG Hail, Norman may get plummeted again by another Hailstorm.

Good thing I'm home for spring break :D
I like storms but absolutely can't stand hail
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Re: Texas Spring 2022

#426 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:09 am

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Iceresistance wrote:Reed Timmer is heading towards Norman, he said that soundings indicate a faster-than-expected moisture plume may cause some BIG Hail, Norman may get plummeted again by another Hailstorm.

Good thing I'm home for spring break :D
I like storms but absolutely can't stand hail

So am I! :D

Also, me & My family is remodeling the entire house & we happen to have old mattresses on the porch, I'm going to put them into good use tonight by covering the windshields from the Hail, even hail can total cars, one of the HS Teachers lost his wife's car to Tennis Ball sized hail in April 2021, because apparently, the Hail damaged the hood so much that it even damaged the Engine! :eek:
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Re: Texas Spring 2022

#427 Postby Ntxw » Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:01 pm

A lot of wind and fire danger today in Texas. Maybe the far northeast corner of the state may see a few storms.
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Re: Texas Spring 2022

#428 Postby HockeyTx82 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:14 pm

Ntxw wrote:A lot of wind and fire danger today in Texas. Maybe the far northeast corner of the state may see a few storms.


Was just looking at thr HRRR, Oklahoma looks to get storms, some rain in East Texas. Seems to be a last minute north shift. Not an expert.
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Re: Texas Spring 2022

#429 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:48 pm

One thing I note is the (as usual) timing difference between the progressive gfs and more stagnant euro. About a 6 hour difference in progression between the two. I still see some run to run variances in each model in regard to the 500mb pattern, but I think both are underdoing the WAA ahead of the system. I imagine if the euro is closer on timing, we in the eastern half of Texas, and maybe eastern Oklahoma, will be in for a rough ride.
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Re: Texas Spring 2022

#430 Postby HockeyTx82 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:54 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:One thing I note is the (as usual) timing difference between the progressive gfs and more stagnant euro. About a 6 hour difference in progression between the two. I still see some run to run variances in each model in regard to the 500mb pattern, but I think both are underdoing the WAA ahead of the system. I imagine if the euro is closer on timing, we in the eastern half of Texas, and maybe eastern Oklahoma, will be in for a rough ride.


For when and what?
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Re: Texas Spring 2022

#431 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:04 pm

HockeyTx82 wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:One thing I note is the (as usual) timing difference between the progressive gfs and more stagnant euro. About a 6 hour difference in progression between the two. I still see some run to run variances in each model in regard to the 500mb pattern, but I think both are underdoing the WAA ahead of the system. I imagine if the euro is closer on timing, we in the eastern half of Texas, and maybe eastern Oklahoma, will be in for a rough ride.


For when and what?


Next Monday, Potential Severe Weather
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Re: Texas Spring 2022

#432 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:14 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
HockeyTx82 wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:One thing I note is the (as usual) timing difference between the progressive gfs and more stagnant euro. About a 6 hour difference in progression between the two. I still see some run to run variances in each model in regard to the 500mb pattern, but I think both are underdoing the WAA ahead of the system. I imagine if the euro is closer on timing, we in the eastern half of Texas, and maybe eastern Oklahoma, will be in for a rough ride.


For when and what?


Next Monday, Potential Severe Weather

Sorry, wrote that kind of fast, thought I specified but it looks like I didn’t. Work day and all.
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Re: Texas Spring 2022

#433 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:55 pm

Which model does better with cut off lows? Here in Denver, this could be a massive snowstorm depending on the model. Need clarity soon, were 4 days out and still cant zero in on what will happen.
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Re: Texas Spring 2022

#434 Postby Ntxw » Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:15 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:One thing I note is the (as usual) timing difference between the progressive gfs and more stagnant euro. About a 6 hour difference in progression between the two. I still see some run to run variances in each model in regard to the 500mb pattern, but I think both are underdoing the WAA ahead of the system. I imagine if the euro is closer on timing, we in the eastern half of Texas, and maybe eastern Oklahoma, will be in for a rough ride.


The Euro because of timing and more meridional flow would be some severe for anything that pops ahead but line will quickly bow and become a heavy rain feature.

Side note looks chilly behind this system for late March.
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Re: Texas Spring 2022

#435 Postby Brent » Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:50 pm

Ntxw wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:One thing I note is the (as usual) timing difference between the progressive gfs and more stagnant euro. About a 6 hour difference in progression between the two. I still see some run to run variances in each model in regard to the 500mb pattern, but I think both are underdoing the WAA ahead of the system. I imagine if the euro is closer on timing, we in the eastern half of Texas, and maybe eastern Oklahoma, will be in for a rough ride.


The Euro because of timing and more meridional flow would be some severe for anything that pops ahead but line will quickly bow and become a heavy rain feature.

Side note looks chilly behind this system for late March.


Yeah we get close to a freeze next week :double:

Oh and I agree on the hail thing... I saw my fill in 2016 in DFW. I'm good never seeing that again. Nothing good about baseball and larger hail

I will say right now next Monday looks a bit cool here for severe weather but we'll see how it trends

Speaking of cool tomorrow looks downright chilly after these last few days may struggle to get to 50 :double:
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Re: Texas Spring 2022

#436 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:53 pm

Ntxw wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:One thing I note is the (as usual) timing difference between the progressive gfs and more stagnant euro. About a 6 hour difference in progression between the two. I still see some run to run variances in each model in regard to the 500mb pattern, but I think both are underdoing the WAA ahead of the system. I imagine if the euro is closer on timing, we in the eastern half of Texas, and maybe eastern Oklahoma, will be in for a rough ride.


The Euro because of timing and more meridional flow would be some severe for anything that pops ahead but line will quickly bow and become a heavy rain feature.

Side note looks chilly behind this system for late March.

Agreed on the flow, but my impression with the timing is that a slower system would result in a longer period of WAA and destabilization ahead of the advancing dryline which would move into the area near or just after peak heating. Would that not be the case?

That said, given the track record of the GFS and Euro in regard to the handling stronger low pressure systems over the last few months, I am more inclined to favor the GFS in terms of pattern evolution. However, its bias toward progressing them too fast (and the euro too slow) probably should be accounted for. The 12z GFS exemplifies this in that its practically an outlier when compared to its previous runs.
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Re: Texas Spring 2022

#437 Postby bubba hotep » Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:58 pm

Ntxw wrote:A lot of wind and fire danger today in Texas. Maybe the far northeast corner of the state may see a few storms.


Interestingly, FWD has not really budged on their coverage forecast even with the hi-res models showing everything either north or well east of DFW.
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Re: Texas Spring 2022

#438 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:24 pm

Thunderstorm Watch in effect for Oklahoma, here we go

Also, weather.gov is not working properly, but this explains it:
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Re: Texas Spring 2022

#439 Postby EnnisTx » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:38 pm

Starting to see returns out West along the 281 corridor.
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Re: Texas Spring 2022

#440 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:44 pm

EnnisTx wrote:Starting to see returns out West along the 281 corridor.

Yeah no kidding. Way more coverage south of the red river than any model I’ve seen showed. Looks like I already have crow to eat, as I didn’t think more than one or two random cells would pop
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