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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#941 Postby tolakram » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:04 pm

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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#942 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:04 pm

139 FL 136 SFMR supports 130.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#943 Postby galaxy401 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:05 pm

Think this is around 130 kts now. :eek:
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#944 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:06 pm

I agree with 130 kt and I'd put out a Tropical Cyclone Update with that intensity.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#945 Postby aspen » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:07 pm

SFMR matches FL this time. Maybe 135 kt? 130 kt is the most likely though.

It would be nice to have another pass but I doubt Miss Piggy will do another. They’ve got quite a long flight back to base.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#946 Postby Zonacane » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:08 pm

Just below category 5 strength
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#947 Postby supercane4867 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:08 pm

Dropsonde wind profile suggests very efficient downward mixing of intense winds aloft. Those SFMR readings are probably legitimate for assessment. I’d put it at 135kt right now and soon to be CAT5 if we get more pass from recon
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#948 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:11 pm

They might do a flight refuel.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#949 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:13 pm

Sam ranking very highly up there with other powerful MDR storms this evening. My 135 knot, MSLP 945mb guess is looking good.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#950 Postby Stormybajan » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:13 pm

Imo based on the NE pass using a blend its probably 130 knots right now and on the edge of 135 knots if those flight level winds increase a bit through this recon mission
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#951 Postby supercane4867 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:15 pm

FWIW the highest SFMR reading recorded in Jose was 142kt but the max FL wind in the same recon mission was only 132kt. SFMR readings from Sam appear to be less inflated than those from Jose
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#952 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:16 pm

Extrapolated pressure about the same as it was in the first pass . . . (942 MB)
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#953 Postby DioBrando » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:24 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Sam ranking very highly up there with other powerful MDR storms this evening. My 135 knot, MSLP 945mb guess is looking good.

Like which ones you reckon?
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#954 Postby Hammy » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:30 pm

supercane4867 wrote:Dropsonde wind profile suggests very efficient downward mixing of intense winds aloft. Those SFMR readings are probably legitimate for assessment. I’d put it at 135kt right now and soon to be CAT5 if we get more pass from recon


How long is the plane expected to be out there?
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#955 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:35 pm

Ok storm seems to be becoming less symmetrical and cloud top warmth is now persisting. A weakening trend is now imminent though not sure what’s causing it.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#956 Postby skyline385 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:36 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:I agree with 130 kt and I'd put out a Tropical Cyclone Update with that intensity.


Would they do it for an OTS system? I think they might just update it to 130kt at the 11PM update.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#957 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:36 pm

I see a 180knot gust in the 16 dropsonde!
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#958 Postby aspen » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:37 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:Ok storm seems to be becoming less symmetrical and cloud top warmth is now persisting. A weakening trend is now imminent though not sure what’s causing it.

Someone on Twitter pointed out the possibility of an eyewall meld, so maybe that’s what’s happening. Or it’s a bit of mid-level shear.
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#959 Postby WiscoWx02 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:38 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:Ok storm seems to be becoming less symmetrical and cloud top warmth is now persisting. A weakening trend is now imminent though not sure what’s causing it.


I smell an eye wall replacement cycle. Weakening for sure. Will have to see if it can finish this eye wall replacement cycle without pulling a Larry. Actually, does anyone know where the best place to access microwave scans of storm structure are?
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Re: ATL: SAM - Hurricane - Discussion

#960 Postby MarioProtVI » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:39 pm

supercane4867 wrote:FWIW the highest SFMR reading recorded in Jose was 142kt but the max FL wind in the same recon mission was only 132kt. SFMR readings from Sam appear to be less inflated than those from Jose

NHC uses blending so it’s more likely 130 kt.
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