Tropical Wave off the Coast of Africa (Is Invest 90L)

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Tropical Wave off the Coast of Africa (Is Invest 90L)

#1 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:36 pm

The models like this wave but let's see in reality how things evolve down the road.

Another tropical wave is expected to emerge off of the west African
coast by the middle of next week. Afterwards, environmental
conditions appear marginally conducive for gradual development
toward the end of next week as the system moves west-northwestward
to northwestward at 10 to 15 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.


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Re: Tropical Wave to emerge from West Africa next week

#2 Postby aspen » Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:59 pm

Unless they give this an invest tag before it’s over water, this is easily gonna be one of the longest pre-invest threads ever.

The low latitude will help future 90L out a lot by having it over ~28C water for its earliest few days, and out of the way of any SAL that might be present. This has a good shot of becoming a MDR major before recurving…assuming it actually does recurve.
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Re: Tropical Wave to emerge from West Africa next week

#3 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:02 pm

12z Euro a little more west but goes NW eventually.

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Re: Tropical Wave to emerge from West Africa next week

#4 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 27, 2021 5:40 pm

18Z GFS with a quick turn to the north:

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Re: Tropical Wave to emerge from West Africa next week

#5 Postby aspen » Fri Aug 27, 2021 5:56 pm

gatorcane wrote:18Z GFS with a quick turn to the north:

https://i.postimg.cc/6p3YGjVy/gfs-mslp-pcpn-atl-fh120-222.gif

Keep in mind that the GFS usually underestimates ridges, while the Euro overestimates them. A recurve around 40-50W seems more likely than 25-30W. It may also be overestimating how long 98L’s remnants will be around and how much they’ll weaken the ridge.
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Re: Tropical Wave to emerge from West Africa next week

#6 Postby AlphaToOmega » Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:39 pm

Another tropical wave is expected to emerge off of the west African
coast by the middle of next week. Afterwards, environmental
conditions appear marginally conducive for gradual development
toward the end of next week as the system moves west-northwestward
to northwestward at 10 to 15 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent.
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Re: Tropical Wave to emerge from West Africa next week

#7 Postby ConvergenceZone » Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:39 pm

thank goodness models are making this a fish storm(as was expected)....After IDA we will need a long break...........
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Re: Tropical Wave to emerge from West Africa next week

#8 Postby AlphaToOmega » Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:27 am

A tropical wave is expected to emerge off the coast of west Africa
by the middle of next week. Thereafter, environmental conditions
appear somewhat conducive for gradual development toward the end of
next week as the system moves west-northwestward to northwestward at
10 to 15 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...50 percent.
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Re: Tropical Wave to emerge from West Africa next week

#9 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:25 pm

A tropical wave is expected to emerge off the coast of west Africa
by the middle of next week. Thereafter, environmental conditions
appear somewhat conducive for gradual development toward the end of
next week as the system moves west-northwestward to northwestward at
10 to 15 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...60 percent.
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Re: Tropical Wave to emerge from West Africa next week

#10 Postby Blown Away » Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:44 pm

97L, TD10, and this TW in a big Central Atlantic recurve loop.
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Re: Tropical Wave to emerge from West Africa next week

#11 Postby aspen » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:10 pm

I hope this follows the Euro’s track: staying around 15N or lower until 40-45W before recurving. It’ll be able to rack up a ton of ACE and have the opportunity to become a major without threatening land. The GFS’s solution of a recurve the moment it exists Africa seems very unrealistic, and we’ve seen it bust with early recurves with TD10.
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Re: Tropical Wave to emerge from West Africa next week

#12 Postby Shell Mound » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:48 pm

Blown Away wrote:97L, TD10, and this TW in a big Central Atlantic recurve loop.

Didn't you once suggest that the models were wrong about an early OTS path? :wink:
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Re: Tropical Wave to emerge from West Africa next week

#13 Postby Blown Away » Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:00 pm

Shell Mound wrote:
Blown Away wrote:97L, TD10, and this TW in a big Central Atlantic recurve loop.

Didn't you once suggest that the models were wrong about an early OTS path? :wink:


Lol, maybe 4 days ago, the current globals so consistent with a early recurve and it seems likely b/c 97L & TD10 drifting around in the Central Atlantic not allowing HP to build. If this current TW stays weak/shallow up to at least 50W then it becomes a threat to W basin.
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Re: Tropical Wave to emerge from West Africa next week

#14 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:24 pm

A tropical wave is expected to emerge off the coast of west Africa
by the middle of next week. Thereafter, environmental conditions
appear conducive for gradual development, and a tropical depression
is likely to form toward the end of next week as the system moves
west-northwestward to northwestward at 10 to 15 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...70 percent.


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Re: Tropical Wave to emerge from West Africa next week

#15 Postby Stormybajan » Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:26 pm

cycloneye wrote:
A tropical wave is expected to emerge off the coast of west Africa
by the middle of next week. Thereafter, environmental conditions
appear conducive for gradual development, and a tropical depression
is likely to form toward the end of next week as the system moves
west-northwestward to northwestward at 10 to 15 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...70 percent.


https://i.imgur.com/wcpK5py.png

Code red for a wave that hasnt even moved off Africa :eek: , add this to the collection
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Re: Tropical Wave to emerge from West Africa next week

#16 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:57 am

A tropical wave is expected to emerge off the coast of west Africa
by Tuesday. Environmental conditions appear conducive for
development once the wave moves offshore, and a tropical depression
is likely to form toward the end of the week while the system moves
west-northwestward at 10 to 15 mph over the eastern tropical
Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...80 percent.
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Re: Tropical Wave to emerge from West Africa next week

#17 Postby toad strangler » Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:09 am

Shell Mound wrote:
Blown Away wrote:97L, TD10, and this TW in a big Central Atlantic recurve loop.

Didn't you once suggest that the models were wrong about an early OTS path? :wink:


omg if trolling like that was allowed there would be a separate forum for your gaffes SM lol
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Re: Tropical Wave to emerge from West Africa on Tuesday

#18 Postby aspen » Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:53 am

All models are showing TD10/Kate creating a nice big gap in the ridge at around 50W which this storm (future Larry) gets pulled up into. Unless another ridge builds back in to block it, Larry will probably be a safe, high-ACE recurve.
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Re: Tropical Wave to emerge from West Africa on Tuesday

#19 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:40 pm

A tropical wave is expected to emerge off the west coast of Africa
by Monday night. Environmental conditions appear conducive for the
development of a low pressure area once the wave moves offshore,
and a tropical depression is likely to form by the middle or
latter part of the week while the system moves west-northwestward
at 10 to 15 mph over the eastern tropical Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...30 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...80 percent.
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Re: Tropical Wave to emerge from West Africa on Monday night

#20 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 29, 2021 1:30 pm

Invest 90L coming soon.

GENESIS027, AL, L, , , , , 79, 2021, DB, O, 2021082900, 9999999999, , 027, , , , GENESIS, , AL792021


https://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/atcf/index/AL_storms.txt.nhc
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