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Re: ATL: HENRI - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#401 Postby tolakram » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:49 pm

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Tropical Storm Henri Discussion Number 20
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL082021
500 PM EDT Fri Aug 20 2021

Henri appears to be slowly gaining strength. Deep convection has
been increasing during the past few hours and the upper-level
outflow continues to become better established on the east side of
the circulation. However, the low-level center is still located
near the northwestern edge of the deep convection due to ongoing
northerly wind shear. An ASCAT-B pass from a few hours ago showed
peak winds of around 55 kt, with the strongest winds on the
southeast side of the circulation. Based on this data, the initial
intensity is set at 60 kt. An Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter
aircraft is scheduled to investigate Henri again this evening and
the data the plane collects will be very helpful in estimating the
storm's strength and structure.

The tropical storm appears to be making the advertised turn to the
right, with the latest initial motion estimated to be 335/6 kt. A
trough over the central Appalachians is expected to cut off tonight,
and the combination of that feature and a building ridge to the
east/northeast of Henri should cause the storm to accelerate to the
north on Saturday. The latest model runs have generally trended to
the left again and are a bit faster, with most showing landfall in
about 48 hours. Most of the models now show a slight left turn
before landfall as Henri gets caught in the circulation of the
aforementioned trough. The latest GFS and ECMWF ensemble members
continue to span a region from near New York City to Cape Cod for
the landfall point. Based on the latest consensus aids, the
official track forecast has again been nudged to the west of the
previous one and shows landfall occurring on Sunday. After day 3,
Henri is forecast to eject northeastward.

The ongoing northerly shear is expected to decrease tonight, and
the global models show a favorable upper-level wind pattern
developing over the storm through the weekend. These more
conducive atmospheric conditions combined with the warm Gulf
Stream waters should allow Henri to strengthen to a hurricane
tonight or early Saturday, with additional intensification expected
into Saturday night. By early Sunday, however, Henri is forecast to
cross the north wall of the Gulf Stream, and that should end its
opportunity for strengthening. Although steady to rapid weakening is
forecast while Henri moves over cooler waters south of Long
Island and New England, it will likely still be at or very near
hurricane intensity when it reaches the coast. Post-tropical
transition is forecast to occur by day 3 and the system should
dissipate in 4 or 5 days.

Users are reminded to not focus on the exact forecast of the
center of Henri since impacts will extend far from the center.

Key Messages:

1. Dangerous storm surge inundation is expected to begin Sunday in
portions of Long Island, Connecticut, Rhode Island, and
southeastern Massachusetts, where a Storm Surge Warning has been
issued. Dangerous storm surge is possible beginning Sunday in
western portions of Long Island and Connecticut in the Storm Surge
Watch area. Residents in these areas should follow any advice given
by local officials.

2. Hurricane conditions are expected to begin Sunday in portions
of Long Island and Connecticut, where a Hurricane Warning has been
issued. Hurricane conditions are possible Sunday across portions
of Rhode Island and southeastern Massachusetts.

3. Heavy rainfall may lead to considerable flash, urban, and small
stream flooding, along with the potential for widespread minor and
isolated moderate river flooding, over portions of Long Island and
New England Sunday into Monday.

4. Swells from Henri will continue to affect much of the east coast
of the U.S. through the weekend. These swells could cause
life-threatening surf and rip currents.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 20/2100Z 31.2N 73.9W 60 KT 70 MPH
12H 21/0600Z 32.8N 73.3W 65 KT 75 MPH
24H 21/1800Z 35.8N 72.3W 75 KT 85 MPH
36H 22/0600Z 38.9N 71.9W 75 KT 85 MPH
48H 22/1800Z 40.8N 72.4W 65 KT 75 MPH
60H 23/0600Z 42.0N 72.8W 45 KT 50 MPH...INLAND
72H 23/1800Z 42.9N 72.6W 30 KT 35 MPH...POST-TROPICAL
96H 24/1800Z 43.8N 68.9W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROPICAL
120H 25/1800Z...DISSIPATED

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Forecaster Cangialosi
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Re: ATL: HENRI - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#402 Postby tolakram » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:51 pm

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Re: ATL: HENRI - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#403 Postby Blown Away » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:52 pm

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Amazing how specific the NHC has become with their Warning Area, use to be such a large area for error back in the day. :D
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Re: ATL: HENRI - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#404 Postby aspen » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:59 pm

Even a tiny west shift would put me under a Hurricane Warning. I think this’ll be the first time my town is under one that I can remember; I don’t think we had one for Isaias.
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Re: ATL: HENRI - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#405 Postby OuterBanker » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:00 pm

I wonder when the last time the Hamptons has a hurricane warning.
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Re: ATL: HENRI - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#406 Postby ConvergenceZone » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:13 pm

Who would have ever thought that a thread of a hurricane heading for the northeast coast of the united states would only have 21 pages??? Really???? I've seen tropical waves have more pages and interest..................Strange times...
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Re: ATL: HENRI - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#407 Postby kevin » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:16 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:Who would have ever thought that a thread of a hurricane heading for the northeast coast of the united states would only have 21 pages??? Really???? I've seen tropical waves have more pages and interest..................Strange times...


Yeah usually these kind of storms have 100 pages before even the hurricane warnings arrive. Guess the fact that Henri seemed to almost certainly go OTS until recently kept the thread quiet. But it's gonna go fast now, if it does strengthen into a strong hurricane I wouldn't be surprised if the number of pages doubles tomorrow.
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Re: ATL: HENRI - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#408 Postby Happy Pelican » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:16 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:Who would have ever thought that a thread of a hurricane heading for the northeast coast of the united states would only have 21 pages??? Really???? I've seen tropical waves have more pages and interest..................Strange times...


Exactly. I’m on the NJ barriers and we were destroyed by Sandy here. The barriers are packed and no one seems to even care. I know I’m ready.
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Re: ATL: HENRI - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#409 Postby toad strangler » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:24 pm

Bastardi thinks Henri could RI before landfall ....

 http://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi/status/1428822682657869829


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Re: ATL: HENRI - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#410 Postby IcyTundra » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:25 pm

The track just keeps shifting further west as it looks like Long Island is going to get the worst of this. If it shifts any further west it would put NYC right in its crosshairs along with the North Jersey coast.
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#411 Postby psyclone » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:27 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:Who would have ever thought that a thread of a hurricane heading for the northeast coast of the united states would only have 21 pages??? Really???? I've seen tropical waves have more pages and interest..................Strange times...


It's not strange at all. It's actually exactly what one should expect. Posting activity is directly correlated to the number of members in a potential impact zone. What it really illustrates is a dearth of posters from that part of the world. Hopefully this event will tempt some folks from up that way to join and partake..
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Re: ATL: HENRI - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#412 Postby Woofde » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:29 pm

Recon is about to arrive in Henri. I would guess it's still around 996mb. Looking at visible satellite imagery the LLC looks to still be displaced to the NW pretty significantly.
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Re: ATL: HENRI - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#413 Postby ConvergenceZone » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:30 pm

psyclone wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:Who would have ever thought that a thread of a hurricane heading for the northeast coast of the united states would only have 21 pages??? Really???? I've seen tropical waves have more pages and interest..................Strange times...


It's not strange at all. It's actually exactly what one should expect. Posting activity is directly correlated to the number of members in a potential impact zone. What it really illustrates is a dearth of posters from that part of the world. Hopefully this event will tempt some folks from up that way to join and partake..


Wow really? I thought post activity had more to do with the large amount of tropical weather enthusiasts all over...For example, I'm from California.....
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Re: ATL: HENRI - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#414 Postby lilac » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:37 pm

The forecast is now right over where we live on Long Island d. I'm glad we're not right on the water.
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Re: ATL: HENRI - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#415 Postby aspen » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:53 pm

toad strangler wrote:Bastardi thinks Henri could RI before landfall ....

http://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi/status/1428822682657869829?s=20

The day before? Yes, but those nice and warm Gulf Stream waters will plummet to 25C and below very quickly, so any RI phase will stop by Sunday morning at the latest.

A Cat 2 peak wouldn’t surprise me that much, though.
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Re: ATL: HENRI - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#416 Postby aspen » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:58 pm

Woofde wrote:Recon is about to arrive in Henri. I would guess it's still around 996mb. Looking at visible satellite imagery the LLC looks to still be displaced to the NW pretty significantly.

Wow you were spot on! 995.6mb extrapolated at the lowest, around 73.5W.
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Re: ATL: HENRI - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#417 Postby grapealcoholic » Fri Aug 20, 2021 5:01 pm

Center looks to be reallyyyy far south
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Re: ATL: HENRI - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#418 Postby Hurricaneman » Fri Aug 20, 2021 5:08 pm

grapealcoholic wrote:Center looks to be reallyyyy far south


Seems like a relocation in the convection
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Re: ATL: HENRI - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#419 Postby aspen » Fri Aug 20, 2021 5:29 pm

Recon shows quite a large area of sub-1000mb pressures, showing how the system is still vertically tilted and suggesting it’s still trying to relocate the LLC under the MLC within the persistent deep convection. Maximum winds have yet to be sampled, but they’ll likely be around 55-60 kt.
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Re: ATL: HENRI - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#420 Postby Teban54 » Fri Aug 20, 2021 5:39 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:Who would have ever thought that a thread of a hurricane heading for the northeast coast of the united states would only have 21 pages??? Really???? I've seen tropical waves have more pages and interest..................Strange times...


At least we do have a few posters from the northeast. Grace is about to hit Mexico possibly as a major soon, yet that thread is even quieter than Henri because there are maybe one or two users here from Mexico.
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