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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1161 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:42 pm

NOAA2 Eye Dropsonde #2, 991 MB with 33 knots of wind, probably closer to 990-988 MB

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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1162 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:42 pm

Needs to become more CDO dominant if this wants to avoid dry air issues.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1163 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:43 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:Needs to become more CDO dominant if this wants to avoid dry air issues.

Looks like it’s actually on its way now. These seem to be the first bursts in the core that actually have some staying power. We’ll see if this continues
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1164 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:44 pm

AF304 missed the Eye Dropsonde . . . Only managed to get the NW & SE eyewalls . . .
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1165 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:44 pm

Convection is exploding in the eye wall and is wrapping around.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1166 Postby AlphaToOmega » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:52 pm

Recon is finding 75-knot winds in Grace.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1167 Postby aspen » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:53 pm

Lots of nice hot towers firing up. Dropsondes in the eye and SE eyewall support an intensity of 70kt/989mb for 8pm. I expect the pressure to start dropping again with all of that new convection.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1168 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:53 pm

AlphaToOmega wrote:Recon is finding 75-knot winds in Grace.


I'm not seeing that?
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1169 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:01 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
AlphaToOmega wrote:Recon is finding 75-knot winds in Grace.


I'm not seeing that?


I did see Recon had winds up to 70 knots, but let's wait on the next passes . . .
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1170 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:02 pm

Big hot tower rotating around eye, forming strong eyewall.
Clearly see this on IR
Chances are 70 to 100% RI by DMAX
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1171 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:06 pm

GCANE wrote:Big hot tower rotating around eye, forming strong eyewall.
Clearly see this on IR
Chances are 70 to 100% RI by DMAX


The Southern end has the strong Eyewall with the high cloud tops

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She's going to have a compact core like Delta 2020 . . .
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1172 Postby aspen » Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:11 pm

AlphaToOmega wrote:Recon is finding 75-knot winds in Grace.

Those were FL winds. The maximum surface-level winds supported by SFMR and dropsondes are 70 kt. But with deep convection wrapping around the compact eye, those higher FL winds will likely start translating down.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1173 Postby ThetaE » Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:18 pm

Iceresistance wrote:AF304 missed the Eye Dropsonde . . . Only managed to get the NW & SE eyewalls . . .


Seems like it was a bit late to reporting, but a dropsonde did actually come in from the AF plane... 986! Surprised me to see it that low, since extrap didn't look too different from the NOAA plane. Curious what the next few passes show.

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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1174 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:20 pm

ThetaE wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:AF304 missed the Eye Dropsonde . . . Only managed to get the NW & SE eyewalls . . .


Seems like it was a bit late to reporting, but a dropsonde did actually come in from the AF plane... 986! Surprised me to see it that low, since extrap didn't look too different from the NOAA plane. Curious what the next few passes show.

https://i.imgur.com/Pg1mHX0.png


If you look closer at the Pressure data, it's actually 990 MB from that Dropsonde . . .
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1175 Postby ThetaE » Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:23 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
ThetaE wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:AF304 missed the Eye Dropsonde . . . Only managed to get the NW & SE eyewalls . . .


Seems like it was a bit late to reporting, but a dropsonde did actually come in from the AF plane... 986! Surprised me to see it that low, since extrap didn't look too different from the NOAA plane. Curious what the next few passes show.

https://i.imgur.com/Pg1mHX0.png


If you look closer at the Pressure data, it's actually 990 MB from that Dropsonde . . .


Ah, you're right. Makes more sense.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1176 Postby Mob1 » Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:32 pm

Grace is much more symmetrical now with solid winds in the SW quadrant, earlier missions showed very weak winds there.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1177 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:33 pm

Pass #3 for NOAA2 Recon plane, lowest Extrapolated Pressure is 988 MB

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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1178 Postby Mob1 » Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:40 pm

Unflagged SFMR reading of 68 Knots
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1179 Postby AtlanticWind » Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:41 pm

NHC looks to be right on with 85 mph landfall, I thought it might get to 100+ but seems unlikely now.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1180 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:41 pm

New lower Extrapolated pressure from NOAA2: 987.9 MB

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