
ATL: GRACE - Remnants - Discussion
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion
NOAA2 Eye Dropsonde #2, 991 MB with 33 knots of wind, probably closer to 990-988 MB


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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion
Needs to become more CDO dominant if this wants to avoid dry air issues.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion
Yellow Evan wrote:Needs to become more CDO dominant if this wants to avoid dry air issues.
Looks like it’s actually on its way now. These seem to be the first bursts in the core that actually have some staying power. We’ll see if this continues
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion
AF304 missed the Eye Dropsonde . . . Only managed to get the NW & SE eyewalls . . .
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion
Convection is exploding in the eye wall and is wrapping around.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion
Lots of nice hot towers firing up. Dropsondes in the eye and SE eyewall support an intensity of 70kt/989mb for 8pm. I expect the pressure to start dropping again with all of that new convection.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion
AlphaToOmega wrote:Recon is finding 75-knot winds in Grace.
I'm not seeing that?
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:AlphaToOmega wrote:Recon is finding 75-knot winds in Grace.
I'm not seeing that?
I did see Recon had winds up to 70 knots, but let's wait on the next passes . . .
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion
Big hot tower rotating around eye, forming strong eyewall.
Clearly see this on IR
Chances are 70 to 100% RI by DMAX
Clearly see this on IR
Chances are 70 to 100% RI by DMAX
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion
GCANE wrote:Big hot tower rotating around eye, forming strong eyewall.
Clearly see this on IR
Chances are 70 to 100% RI by DMAX
The Southern end has the strong Eyewall with the high cloud tops

She's going to have a compact core like Delta 2020 . . .
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion
AlphaToOmega wrote:Recon is finding 75-knot winds in Grace.
Those were FL winds. The maximum surface-level winds supported by SFMR and dropsondes are 70 kt. But with deep convection wrapping around the compact eye, those higher FL winds will likely start translating down.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion
Iceresistance wrote:AF304 missed the Eye Dropsonde . . . Only managed to get the NW & SE eyewalls . . .
Seems like it was a bit late to reporting, but a dropsonde did actually come in from the AF plane... 986! Surprised me to see it that low, since extrap didn't look too different from the NOAA plane. Curious what the next few passes show.

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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion
ThetaE wrote:Iceresistance wrote:AF304 missed the Eye Dropsonde . . . Only managed to get the NW & SE eyewalls . . .
Seems like it was a bit late to reporting, but a dropsonde did actually come in from the AF plane... 986! Surprised me to see it that low, since extrap didn't look too different from the NOAA plane. Curious what the next few passes show.
https://i.imgur.com/Pg1mHX0.png
If you look closer at the Pressure data, it's actually 990 MB from that Dropsonde . . .
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion
Iceresistance wrote:ThetaE wrote:Iceresistance wrote:AF304 missed the Eye Dropsonde . . . Only managed to get the NW & SE eyewalls . . .
Seems like it was a bit late to reporting, but a dropsonde did actually come in from the AF plane... 986! Surprised me to see it that low, since extrap didn't look too different from the NOAA plane. Curious what the next few passes show.
https://i.imgur.com/Pg1mHX0.png
If you look closer at the Pressure data, it's actually 990 MB from that Dropsonde . . .
Ah, you're right. Makes more sense.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion
Grace is much more symmetrical now with solid winds in the SW quadrant, earlier missions showed very weak winds there.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion
Pass #3 for NOAA2 Recon plane, lowest Extrapolated Pressure is 988 MB


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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion
NHC looks to be right on with 85 mph landfall, I thought it might get to 100+ but seems unlikely now.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Hurricane - Discussion
New lower Extrapolated pressure from NOAA2: 987.9 MB


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