ATL: FRED - Models
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Re: ATL: SIX - Models
Not liking the turn into Key Largo at all no matter how small it may look.
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Re: ATL: FRED - Models
0z Icon stays weak into the Keys (shift left from earlier runs), this one goes over most of Hispaniola, though, then rides ... well crawls slowly... up just offshore the west coast of Florida.
I think the biggest takeaway here is how much it slows down in the Gulf.

I think the biggest takeaway here is how much it slows down in the Gulf.

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Re: ATL: FRED - Models
Wondering why the lack of attention to this thread until I saw the 0z GFS pretty much keeps this a sloppy Fred his whole lifespan haha
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Re: ATL: FRED - Models
Are my eyes playing tricks on me or has the HWRF gone bonkers at 00z. Looks like it initialized Fred near the PR coast and then moves it SW for the next 6 hours.
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I noticed that too, the structure it shows also looks nothing like what actual radar shows.SouthFLTropics wrote:Are my eyes playing tricks on me or has the HWRF gone bonkers at 00z. Looks like it initialized Fred near the PR coast and then moves it SW for the next 6 hours.
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Re: ATL: FRED - Models
HWRF has it going right for the tall mountains so this will be interesting to see how it plays out.
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It looks like it decides that a vortex to the SW takes over and runs it from there. Very unlikely and a junk model run already IMO.Woofde wrote:I noticed that too, the structure it shows also looks nothing like what actual radar shows.SouthFLTropics wrote:Are my eyes playing tricks on me or has the HWRF gone bonkers at 00z. Looks like it initialized Fred near the PR coast and then moves it SW for the next 6 hours.
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Re: ATL: FRED - Models
Hmm HWRF has it going SW at the start of the run but on radar that's not happening...
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Re: ATL: FRED - Models
what the hell HWRF lol
is this as a result of the LLC tucking in the MLC to the SW?
is this as a result of the LLC tucking in the MLC to the SW?
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Re: ATL: SIX - Models
AutoPenalti wrote:tolakram wrote:toad strangler wrote:18z GFS doing it's best to poof PTC6 over Cuba
Toss this run, init was hundreds of miles too far south if that radar MLC is the real deal.
Yeah but now all of the sudden unfavorable conditions return. Look how the ULL suddenly strengthens
Actually, the latest GFS shows more UL divergence and hence anticyclonic flow north of Cuba and over the Bahamas by 66h (18Z 13 Aug) vs. previous runs.
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Re: ATL: FRED - Models
HWRF dives it SW into Cuba after it clears Hispaniola. Until I see actual evidence this might happen I'm throwing this run out
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Re: ATL: FRED - Models
6z GFS looking much more robust with Fred

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Expecting another shift north with the cone. 00z euro and 06z GFS bring this Thru the southern peninsula before moving Into the gulf.
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N2FSU wrote:6z GFS looking much more robust with Fred
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Also landfalls southern tip of fl rides up west coast of fl exits into the big bend.
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Re: ATL: FRED - Models
Gfs stronger and east.


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Re: ATL: FRED - Models
o6z GFS and 0z Euro are fairly similar in the track, the Euro remaining more to the right.
I guess it all depends exactly where it trackds near the eastern GOM, offshore the whole time will mean a stronger system vs near the coast or just inland.




I guess it all depends exactly where it trackds near the eastern GOM, offshore the whole time will mean a stronger system vs near the coast or just inland.




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Re: ATL: FRED - Models
What a joke the HWRF has become, it has gone from a Cat 1/Cat 2 hurricane for SE FL to barely a TD approaching SE FL in less than 3 runs.
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Become or was a joke, i hoisted a warning about it during elsa and pre-fred...it creates tons of excotement but rarely deliversNDG wrote:What a joke the HWRF has become, it has gone from a Cat 1/Cat 2 hurricane for SE FL to barely a TD approaching SE FL in less than 3 runs.
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Re: ATL: FRED - Models
Intensity is still the great untamed frontier in modeling. We all know that. ESPECIALLY with a system that gets entangled by a GA island.
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jlauderdal wrote:Become or was a joke, i hoisted a warning about it during elsa and pre-fred...it creates tons of excotement but rarely deliversNDG wrote:What a joke the HWRF has become, it has gone from a Cat 1/Cat 2 hurricane for SE FL to barely a TD approaching SE FL in less than 3 runs.
That it has become this year is what I am saying.
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