Low Pressure east of Windward Islands (Is Invest 94L)

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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#101 Postby Woofde » Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:21 am

That GFS run has this as a small system making some wild intensity swings. From hour 96 to 102 it drops almost 10 mb in 6 hours.

Edit: Oops, I posted in the wrong wave thread.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#102 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:21 am

lsuhurricane wrote:These recent GFS runs should really light this thread up like a Christmas tree. Low latitude runner on the 12z. Clearly finding ideal conditions on approach to the GA islands

That’s not this system, it’s the middle wave between 92L and this thats being discussed in that thread
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#103 Postby aspen » Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:24 am

This wave probably deserves watching to see if it develops either north of the Greater Antilles or within the Gulf. Most model runs show it going over The Shredder, but depending on its exact track, it might find a favorable environment in the two regions I just mentioned, and there is a chance it misses the biggest islands like Dorian. Another “we’ll just have to wait and see” wave without a defined LLC for the models to center on.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#104 Postby Spacecoast » Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:28 am

ECMF Ensembles have been consistent about the two western waves.
92L not so much,
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#105 Postby aspen » Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:47 am

GFS gets this into the eastern Gulf, but it doesn’t develop and it isn’t until around the 200hr range. Lots of time to see where it’ll go.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#106 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 07, 2021 12:39 pm

2 PM TWO:

A tropical wave located over the west-central tropical Atlantic
is producing limited shower and thunderstorm activity. Significant
development of this system is not anticipated as it moves
west-northwestward across the Lesser Antilles and eastern Caribbean
Sea during the early to middle part of next week.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...10 percent.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#107 Postby Cpv17 » Sat Aug 07, 2021 12:42 pm

The CMC develops this into a weak storm headed towards TX/LA.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#108 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:38 pm

Today’s 12Z Euro moves this wave into SE Florida a week from now, with no development:

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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#109 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sat Aug 07, 2021 2:03 pm

Is this thread the one for the wave at 40W? The current GFS is all over that one with a hit on PR
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#110 Postby AtlanticWind » Sat Aug 07, 2021 2:04 pm

Longer-range model projections show the tropical wave currently
over the west-central tropical Atlantic moving through the Bahamas
late next week and approaching South Florida on Friday. Any
impacts from this wave would probably be just beyond the end of
this forecast period, but something to keep an eye on as we go
through the next few days.

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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#111 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Sat Aug 07, 2021 2:14 pm

ScottNAtlanta wrote:Is this thread the one for the wave at 40W? The current GFS is all over that one with a hit on PR


No, this wave is closer to 50W. The one closer to 40W is tagged as the wave west of the Cabo Verde Islands.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#112 Postby AnnularCane » Sat Aug 07, 2021 2:38 pm

captainbarbossa19 wrote:
ScottNAtlanta wrote:Is this thread the one for the wave at 40W? The current GFS is all over that one with a hit on PR


No, this wave is closer to 50W. The one closer to 40W is tagged as the wave west of the Cabo Verde Islands.



And the 40W wave is now Invest 93L.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#113 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Sat Aug 07, 2021 2:42 pm

gatorcane wrote:Today’s 12Z Euro moves this wave into SE Florida a week from now, with no development:

https://i.postimg.cc/C5cPK96b/ecmwf-uv850-vort-watl-fh0-168.gif


The Euro has been performing very poorly with cyclogenesis. I would not be surprised to see this develop after passing Puerto Rico.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#114 Postby AtlanticWind » Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:14 pm

Convection now firing as the system passes 50w as many do this time of year.
Now we will see if conditions are good enough to allow any development.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#115 Postby AtlanticWind » Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:23 pm

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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#116 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:08 pm

I would focus more on this system. the other two may also develop but this is in a better environemnt.


adding to that...

the trend today and this afternoon have been a rapid organization in the low levels with visible showing a distinct vort max which has now started producing deep convection over it and in some proto bands around it.

HIgher moisture and lower shear than 92L and 93L

This should be 94L very soon.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#117 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:12 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:I would focus more on this system. the other two may also develop but this is in a better environemnt.


adding to that...

the trend today and this afternoon have been a rapid organization in the low levels with visible showing a distinct vort max which has now started producing deep convection over it and in some proto bands around it.

HIgher moisture and lower shear than 92L and 93L

This should be 94L very soon.


I was wondering when you would post about this. Good to see you back! The GFS sure likes this now and it looks like it is going to take the same track as what the ICON has been showing.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#118 Postby Spacecoast » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:17 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:I would focus more on this system. the other two may also develop but this is in a better environemnt.


adding to that...

the trend today and this afternoon have been a rapid organization in the low levels with visible showing a distinct vort max which has now started producing deep convection over it and in some proto bands around it.

HIgher moisture and lower shear than 92L and 93L

This should be 94L very soon.

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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#119 Postby AtlanticWind » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:25 pm

I have been toying with a point system with potential systems using models and sat apperance .

As of 18z I would give this a 40 percent chance of development to at least a TD within 72 hours.

Again this is just something I am playing with and still refining.

I dont think the NHC is going to be calling me for advice :D
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Re: Tropical Wave in West-Central Atlantic

#120 Postby BobHarlem » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:34 pm

18z Icon and 18z GFS now on board with this one. (And the 18z GFS pushes 93L out of favor) Next week will be interesting to follow.
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