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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#301 Postby NDG » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:40 am

06z GFS is very persistent in the deep moisture wrapping around Elsa's LLC starting later this evening, we shall see.

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#302 Postby eastcoastFL » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:42 am

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#303 Postby ElectricStorm » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:42 am

The Euro has already taken an L with this system since it developed in the first place. I don't trust it since it's still the outlier for now
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#304 Postby Cat5James » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:44 am

NDG wrote:06z GFS is very persistent in the deep moisture wrapping around Elsa's LLC starting later this evening, we shall see.

https://i.imgur.com/0sUyzaG.gif


Both hurricane models depict similar development.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#305 Postby SFLcane » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:44 am

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#306 Postby SFLcane » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:46 am

HWRF has it right we shall see later this evening.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#307 Postby HurricaneFrances04 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:29 am

And the 6z Euro ensembles shift….west

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#308 Postby Cat5James » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:31 am



"King Euro" still playing catch up.... oh how the mighty have fallen
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#309 Postby Shell Mound » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:32 am


Numerous members are a bit stronger through 72h, too.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#310 Postby eastcoastFL » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:37 am

HWRF track still verifying so far. It’s a tad faster but right on track for now.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#311 Postby eastcoastFL » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:38 am

Shell Mound wrote:

Numerous members are a bit stronger through 72h, too.


Maybe it’s starting to finally adjust to the southern components from last night. Catching up to HWRF on track
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#312 Postby Cat5James » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:41 am

Shell Mound wrote:

Numerous members are a bit stronger through 72h, too.

Western shift equates to stronger storm... the steering with this one is opposite of what we are used to.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#313 Postby presidentofyes12 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:31 am

The 06z HWRF model run has Elsa pull a Fay 2008 and intensify over Lake Okeechobee in Florida. Highest winds for the last frame are offshore, about 58 mph
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#314 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:33 am

presidentofyes12 wrote:The 06z HWRF model run has Elsa pull a Fay 2008 and intensify over Lake Okeechobee in Florida. Highest winds for the last frame are offshore, about 58 mph
https://pipe.miroware.io/5ea73c85ba35b8055638eb96/hwrf_ref_05L_fh114-126%20(2).gif

Going east to west?
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#315 Postby presidentofyes12 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:43 am

ScottNAtlanta wrote:
presidentofyes12 wrote:The 06z HWRF model run has Elsa pull a Fay 2008 and intensify over Lake Okeechobee in Florida. Highest winds for the last frame are offshore, about 58 mph
https://pipe.miroware.io/5ea73c85ba35b8055638eb96/hwrf_ref_05L_fh114-126%20(2).gif

Going east to west?


The model run ends where the gif ends, but its going north-northeast
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#316 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:21 am

kevin wrote:06z GFS ensemble:

https://i.imgur.com/Mgu2BG3.png


Interesting. There are several ensemble members that suggest that Louisiana may even be in play.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#317 Postby Steve » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:23 am

Posted in the wrong thread.

12z ICON is out to 60 hours and smashes it into the DR. On the 00z run it was somewhat refocusing tropical energy toward the former 95L. We'll see if it moves wave energy/low pressure over toward the Mexican Coast as the model comes in. I still don't think it's right, but I get the idea.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0112&fh=60

Edit - out to 99 hours and again the energy just moves out with along the front though it doesn't focus as much at 95L as it did 2 runs ago. I still think this is wrong.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#318 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:43 am

12z GFS is running now. It looks slightly weaker through 18 hours, but still getting better defined.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#319 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:44 am

GFS a lot weaker now through 24 hours but slowly intensifying.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#320 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:46 am

AutoPenalti wrote:GFS a lot weaker now through 24 hours but slowly intensifying.


I suspect that the system may remain somewhat weak until it gets closer to Hispaniola and Jamaica on this run.
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