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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#581 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:06 am

This is quite a march. April is looking EXTREMELY active.
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#582 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:11 am

0z NAM soundings

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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#583 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:14 am

6z NAM soundings

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:uarrow: Likely Contamiated, but OMG!

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:uarrow: Also Likely Contamiated

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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#584 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:15 am

If future runs continue to follow the 11z HRRR I think Birmingham will get added to the high risk in a future update.
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#585 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:19 am

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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#586 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:37 am

That last sounding WHAT! That is insane for a none contaminated sounding!!!! Holy crap Wow This Is Serious!
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#587 Postby AnnularCane » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:49 am

Bunkertor wrote:
InfernoFlameCat wrote:Also what is the highest sounding yall have ever seen? How did that turn out?

I remember, we once had tor:con around 14 and SFBCape 8000 ? for the Jacksonville section. Weather forecasters even went to the place by plane. It was a bust though.



14? Surely you exaggerate. :lol: I've seen a 10 on 4/27/2011 and that was the highest.
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#588 Postby NXStumpy_Robothing » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:52 am

At this point, there's not much reason to look at non-CAM models, and even then, I'd only look at models to compare their predictions to real-life verification. The NAM is a bit too broad for ideal use at this close timeframe.

Better to shift into nowcasting/comparing soundings with those from models like the HRRR.
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#589 Postby ElectricStorm » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:59 am

Wow the wording in the Day 1 outlook is the some of the strongest I've ever seen from SPC. I wouldn't be surprised to see another 45 hatched tornado risk later...
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#590 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:01 am

Weather Dude wrote:Wow the wording in the Day 1 outlook is the some of the strongest I've ever seen from SPC. I wouldn't be surprised to see another 45 hatched tornado risk later...

Or a 60% Hatched . . . :eek:

A tornado outbreak -- including the threat of a few long-tracked,
violent tornadoes -- is expected today into early this evening over
the Southeast, especially parts of Mississippi, Alabama and
Tennessee. Tornadoes, large to very large hail, and damaging winds
to hurricane force also are possible over a broad area from the
central Gulf Coast to the Ohio Valley and southern Appalachians.
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#591 Postby Bunkertor » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:15 am

AnnularCane wrote:
Bunkertor wrote:
InfernoFlameCat wrote:Also what is the highest sounding yall have ever seen? How did that turn out?

I remember, we once had tor:con around 14 and SFBCape 8000 ? for the Jacksonville section. Weather forecasters even went to the place by plane. It was a bust though.


14? Surely you exaggerate. :lol: I've seen a 10 on 4/27/2011 and that was the highest.

I remember Spann saying " I thought the scale ends at ~ 12 ". But OK, can be, i am wrong here.
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#592 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:17 am

Too many 12z NAM Soundings are contamiated
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#593 Postby ElectricStorm » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:58 am

Iceresistance wrote:
Weather Dude wrote:Wow the wording in the Day 1 outlook is the some of the strongest I've ever seen from SPC. I wouldn't be surprised to see another 45 hatched tornado risk later...

Or a 60% Hatched . . . :eek:

A tornado outbreak -- including the threat of a few long-tracked,
violent tornadoes -- is expected today into early this evening over
the Southeast, especially parts of Mississippi, Alabama and
Tennessee. Tornadoes, large to very large hail, and damaging winds
to hurricane force also are possible over a broad area from the
central Gulf Coast to the Ohio Valley and southern Appalachians.

Honestly if there's ever a day that even has a chance at a 60#, it's today. I think a 45# is all but certain on a later outlook now. Synoptically, 4/27/11 is the #1 analogue to today. I personally have a rule that I never compare any setups to one of the Super Outbreaks, and I don't think this will be another super outbreak. But today certainly has very high end potential. The only way that rule goes out the window is if a 60# is issued. (Which I still think is unlikely).
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#594 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:24 am

There is one spot on the hrrr cape that shows 3500+ JEWLS per Kilogram!!!!
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#595 Postby Bunkertor » Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:28 am

Iceresistance : Could you please link your soundings site

The first MD is in

@all : Would it be reasonable, if we had a seperate thread for "big events", where likely 10 or more pages are needed, so that we have something like an archive and more order ?
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#596 Postby Bunkertor » Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:33 am

InfernoFlameCat wrote:There is one spot on the hrrr cape that shows 3500+ JEWLS per Kilogram!!!!

But significant weakening after 21z, whereas the SPC is going full throttle. I guess, it is an error.
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#597 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:42 am

Bunkertor wrote:Iceresistance : Could you please link your soundings site

The first MD is in

@all : Would it be reasonable, if we had a seperate thread for "big events", where likely 10 or more pages are needed, so that we have something like an archive and more order ?


https://weather.cod.edu/forecast/
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#598 Postby Texas Snowman » Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:47 am

Bunkertor wrote:Iceresistance : Could you please link your soundings site

The first MD is in

@all : Would it be reasonable, if we had a seperate thread for "big events", where likely 10 or more pages are needed, so that we have something like an archive and more order ?


I think so...
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#599 Postby Bunkertor » Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:50 am

Iceresistance wrote:
Bunkertor wrote:Iceresistance : Could you please link your soundings site

The first MD is in

@all : Would it be reasonable, if we had a seperate thread for "big events", where likely 10 or more pages are needed, so that we have something like an archive and more order ?


https://weather.cod.edu/forecast/

Thanks, i have already found it, i just wondered, why my sounding sites differ
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Re: Great Plains, Midwest, & Deep South Storm Season 2021

#600 Postby FormerNewtotex » Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:54 am

Wording from the SPC:

This is an uncommon, upper-echelon parameter space. In such an
environment, any relatively discrete supercells will be capable of
multiple tornadoes, some long-tracked and strong to violent (EF2-5
possible), with considerable destructive potential.


https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day1otlk.html
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