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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#7161 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:06 am

wxman57 wrote:
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bubba hotep wrote:
Looking at water vapor there appears to be a subtle s/w in the flow coming out of Mexico and a few radar returns are popping in front of it. That might be a long shot chance to enhance some backside snow later on.

It does look like another s/w will bring some decent snow to the Hill Country tonight & into tomorrow.

Does that mean even more snow for me!? :eek:


Well south of Oklahoma, well south of D-FW.


Unless it turns north, it's going to be south of DFW & me, but I'm fine with it . . .

(Also Wxman57 (Hear Miser :firedevil:), can you please help us thaw out starting this weekend? I love snow, but this is too much! :break:)
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#7162 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:22 am

Taken at the flattest most protected from wind spot I could find.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#7163 Postby cctxhurricanewatcher » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:22 am

Ralph's Weather wrote:I looked back and looks like we started seeing signs of our pattern change around 1/23 (~pg115) for the next week inconsistent signs were there but had the heart of the cold being last week. By the last few days of Jan and early Feb we had a good idea on this though timing was last weekend. Besides ECMWF models had a really good handle on things by 2/8. Anyone (especially people in power) that says they had no idea this was coming is ignorant at best and at worst negligent. I know many in power rely on the ECMWF but that is their own bias, decisions have to be based on data from all reliable sources not just your favorite one.


Unfortunately like hurricane forecasters here on the coast, they are in a damned if they do and damned if they don't situation. It's been proven over and over again that when a to board of warning is posted and then the event is not as bad as predicted, they treat the next warning as "a cry wolf" and ignore it the next time. I kind of understand now why some TV Mets during hurricane season will throw the models out there as cover to blame it on the models if it doesn't materialize. I like to think it's more of trying to get the public to pay attention and then came back and say , yea the model missed us by X miles but the next one might not. Perhaps they will be treating some of the winter weather events like this from now on and say this model says it will be 50 degrees by this time next week, but these other three say we will be stuck in the 20's with a few inches of snow on the ground... One out of the four say this outcome, so prepare for the colder solution. I will say with tropical forecast one thing that doesn't help is the sensationalized coverage of the event and the publics misunderstanding of how broad or limited a storm can be. Just because they see a big cloud circulation coming towards you doesn't mean you are going to get the worst of the weather. Harvey only had it's most damaging winds fifty or so miles from it's center, and some people in the south part of Corpus were like this is no big deal not appreciating the fact that a shift of only few miles would have put them in a world of hurt. But for the new comers to the area or the ones who still on that side of town, they still haven't felt or appreciate the full force of a major hurricane (unless they actually visited Port A or Rockport post storm) because that part of town hasn't been involved in one since 1970.

But yes a number of private forecasters were concerned about this even more so than the NWS offices in some locales. I think I even posted that Austin/ San Antonio and Corpus were kind of unimpressed about the prospects of how cold this would be and this was with many of us seeing the UKMET, Canadian, German and GFS screaming some numbers that were off the charts that came true now to later be joined by the former King.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#7164 Postby SoupBone » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:31 am

I'm currently sitting at 34 degrees (NW Houston) so I hope it holds. No freezing rain yet. This should mean that South Houston is slightly warmer, hopefully.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#7165 Postby bubba hotep » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:33 am

Yukon Cornelius wrote:Taken at the flattest most protected from wind spot I could find.
[url]https://i.ibb.co/sQQN4SW/EB6631-FC-3-F3-A-4-AF1-A454-D552-C36413-E3.jpg [/url]


That's awesome!
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#7166 Postby cctxhurricanewatcher » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:35 am

We had a nice glaze of frozen rain overnight here in Corpus which was more than they predicted. They had us getting some freezing drizzle at most, but this morning all the trees in my neighborhood had a heavy coat of ice on them. .

All my tropical vegetation is gone. Palm trees of all varieties have taken a hit and some will not survive.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#7167 Postby Ntxw » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:36 am

cctxhurricanewatcher wrote:We had a nice glaze of frozen rain overnight here in Corpus which was more than they predicted. They had us getting some freezing drizzle at most, but this morning all the trees in my neighborhood had a heavy coat of ice on them. .

All my tropical vegetation is gone. Palm trees of all varieties have taken a hit and some will not survive.


In the coming days this will be the scene for many. It's been nearly 3 decades since the last hard killing freeze and we have tried to push flora that are not native. Well, gone they will be.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#7168 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:43 am

Wxman57... You held back the wall for 32 years. It proved too much. Next time redirect the cold farther east instead of hogging it all to the plains. :yesno:
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#7169 Postby Ntxw » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:47 am

InfernoFlameCat wrote:Wxman57... You held back the wall for 32 years. It proved too much. Next time redirect the cold farther east instead of hogging it all to the plains. :yesno:


Well to be fair the past 32 years the reason we haven't had it, it mostly went to the east :D.

Our anomalous no single digits, air mass after air mass was so PNA driven. Way out west or way to the east.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#7170 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:47 am

bubba hotep wrote:
Yukon Cornelius wrote:Taken at the flattest most protected from wind spot I could find.
[url]https://i.ibb.co/sQQN4SW/EB6631-FC-3-F3-A-4-AF1-A454-D552-C36413-E3.jpg [/url]


That's awesome!

Deepest snow since Christmas Eve 2009!
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#7171 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:52 am

Yukon Cornelius wrote:Taken at the flattest most protected from wind spot I could find.
[url]https://i.ibb.co/sQQN4SW/EB6631-FC-3-F3-A-4-AF1-A454-D552-C36413-E3.jpg [/url]

Higher measurement at my house when you combine 2 snowstorms (16 inches! Slightly deeper than my ankle!)
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#7172 Postby gboudx » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:54 am

InfernoFlameCat wrote:Wxman57... You held back the wall for 32 years. It proved too much. Next time redirect the cold farther east instead of hogging it all to the plains. :yesno:


It's his wall that caused this. All that arctic air pent up against the wall, eventually it breached it and spilled all of it southward. Like a damn being overwhelmed by flood waters. He needs to add flood control gates, or remove entire sections. It's him and his wall's fault.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#7173 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:57 am

Iceresistance wrote:
Yukon Cornelius wrote:Taken at the flattest most protected from wind spot I could find.
[url]https://i.ibb.co/sQQN4SW/EB6631-FC-3-F3-A-4-AF1-A454-D552-C36413-E3.jpg [/url]

Higher measurement at my house when you combine 2 snowstorms (16 inches! Slightly deeper than my ankle!)
Ankle? Just how tall are you?
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#7174 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:58 am

InfernoFlameCat wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
Yukon Cornelius wrote:Taken at the flattest most protected from wind spot I could find.
[url]https://i.ibb.co/sQQN4SW/EB6631-FC-3-F3-A-4-AF1-A454-D552-C36413-E3.jpg [/url]

Higher measurement at my house when you combine 2 snowstorms (16 inches! Slightly deeper than my ankle!)
Ankle? Just how tall are you?

5 Foot 10

And wearing thick boots outside to add 1-2 inches . . .
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#7175 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:04 pm

gboudx wrote:
InfernoFlameCat wrote:Wxman57... You held back the wall for 32 years. It proved too much. Next time redirect the cold farther east instead of hogging it all to the plains. :yesno:


It's his wall that caused this. All that arctic air pent up against the wall, eventually it breached it and spilled all of it southward. Like a damn being overwhelmed by flood waters. He needs to add flood control gates, or remove entire sections. It's him and his wall's fault.
Especially at the end. It was supposed to come two weeks earlier but Wxman57 delayed it. It grew stronger and stronger before ripping down his wall and unleashed its fury. Had he only released it earlier... . :wall: :blowup:
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#7176 Postby Haris » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:06 pm

.56” of ice officially at camp mabry ..


Temps falling back into the 20s this afternoon. What a disaster
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#7177 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:07 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
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Iceresistance wrote:Higher measurement at my house when you combine 2 snowstorms (16 inches! Slightly deeper than my ankle!)
Ankle? Just how tall are you?

5 Foot 10

And wearing thick boots outside to add 1-2 inches . . .

Oh. I was confused because I am 6 foot 1 and 16 inches of snow would probably go up mid calf. With boots though yeah. I was thinking you were 6' 6".
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#7178 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:07 pm

InfernoFlameCat wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
InfernoFlameCat wrote: Ankle? Just how tall are you?

5 Foot 10

And wearing thick boots outside to add 1-2 inches . . .

Oh. I was confused because I am 6 foot 1 and 16 inches of snow would probably go up mid calf. With boots though yeah. I was thinking you were 6' 6".

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#7179 Postby EnnisTx » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:09 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
InfernoFlameCat wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:Higher measurement at my house when you combine 2 snowstorms (16 inches! Slightly deeper than my ankle!)
Ankle? Just how tall are you?

5 Foot 10

And wearing thick boots outside to add 1-2 inches . . .


2 inch boot soles plus your ankle = about 6 inches. Are you using the typical man measuring system? :wink: Use a ruler for proper measurements.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#7180 Postby kassi » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:09 pm

Freezing rain for hours here now, a little NW of Beaumont. All of the trees are encased in ice and it's been getting thicker. This is from an hour ago. Temperature hasn't gone above freezing.

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Edit: Sorry, it was clearer before I uploaded it. :roll:
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