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Potentially missed storms: updated with track+satellite sources

#1 Postby Hammy » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:26 pm

I'm starting this thread as I'm finally putting all of my archived hurricane data in one place (finally got around to getting an external SSD) and there are quite a few storms in each year that are of interest, that can be discussed and that some of the pro mets might want to weigh in on. I'll be going year by year, posting as I move each along with satellite and radar when available.

Satellite sources: http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?p=2863784#p2863784
Tracking documentation: http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?p=2863786#p2863786
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Re: Potentially missed storms

#2 Postby Hammy » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:46 am

Finally got things sorted out to where I can start adding storms. I have little data for most of these beyond satellite (and in some cases radar) so any additional information and discussion is helpful.

1966:
Sep 21: possible higher latitude wave off of Africa with Inez to the SW, similar to Vicky in proximity to Teddy.
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Sep 28: possible system east of Judith
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Oct 3-8: Kendra, a system originally removed in post-analysis, I suspect will be re-added once the reanalysis gets there.
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Re: Potentially missed storms: 1967

#3 Postby Hammy » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:09 am

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June 20 low around 40N/70W. No additional data available
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TD11, Sep 24-30. Convection fairly concentrated on Sep 26 and (albeit appears sheared) a well defined circulation on the 27th.
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TD19, Oct 12-14. Concentrated convection on the 14th and interacting with a trough to the west. Not clear from satellite where the center is, if it's near the convection or a larger disorganized low to the west.
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Re: Potentially missed storms: 1967 update

#4 Postby Nuno » Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:52 am

How are you going through the season, day by day? What intervals are you using for satellite pics?

Much respect to the older mets who had to use these images to make decisions fifty years ago
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Re: Potentially missed storms: 1967 update

#5 Postby Hammy » Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:49 pm

Nuno wrote:How are you going through the season, day by day? What intervals are you using for satellite pics?

Much respect to the older mets who had to use these images to make decisions fifty years ago


My archives have folders per storm--or potential storm--with satellite, radar (where available) and tracking data--prior to the 2000s filled with whatever satellite imagery I could find.

As for the satellite data:
1966-72: "Catalog of Meteorological Satellite Data" (ESSA version; several volumes exist, each in three month batches, except the last 1972 one which is most of the year). These are one per day compilations from polar orbiting satellites, though the individual scans (not available in these documents) are higher quality.
sample, shrunken down for space:
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"Applications Technology Satellites Meteorological Data Catalog" for some 1968-69 imagery (again once per day) along with the NHC CDMP archive (a lot of data and even original text advisories, 1968-83 available though missing some storms), and various GOES archives after.
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Re: Potentially missed storms: 1967 update

#6 Postby EquusStorm » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:57 pm

Ok that's cool, never seen that imagery set before. Fascinating work.
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Re: Potentially missed storms: 1967 update

#7 Postby Hammy » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:14 pm

Oops, I forgot to link the sources. Long post ahead.

Some scattered NIMBUS imagery from the 1960s (need to create an account, I guess to prevent bots from downloading). All are available for download--the NOAA ones will directly download the PDF.

There are some that are missing from this list, everything can be found here, though the filenames are not labeled as what the doc is. ftp://ftp.library.noaa.gov/docs.lib/htdocs/rescue/TIROS/
Arrange by size and it's the ESSA labeled ones, and the Z6685U ones--and over 500 or so MB.

https://n5eil01u.ecs.nsidc.org/NIMBUS/
ESSA 1967 Jan-Mar https://archive.org/details/catalogueo00unit
ESSA 1967 Apr-Jun https://archive.org/details/catalog00unit
ESSA 1967 Jul-Sep https://books.google.com/books?id=cPlRAQAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
ESSA 1967 Oct-Dec https://archive.org/details/catalo00unit

ESSA 1968 Jan-Mar https://archive.org/details/catalxxxxxxxxxx00unit
ESSA 1968 Apr-Jun (cannot locate through search)
ESSA 1968 Jul-Sep https://books.google.com/books?id=R0w4AAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
ESSA 1968 Oct-Dec https://books.google.com/books?id=fE84AAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
ATS 1968 Feb-Dec https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19710002128

ESSA 1969 Jan-Mar (cannot locate through search)
ESSA 1969 Apr-Jun https://archive.org/details/catalogofmeteoro00unit
ESSA 1969 Jul-Sep https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b3551020&view=1up&seq=7
ESSA 1969 Oct-Dec https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=pst.000072042809&view=1up&seq=1
ATS 1969 Jan-Jul https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19710002129
ATS 1969 Aug-1970 May https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19710017145

ESSA 1970 Jan-Mar https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b3551022&view=1up&seq=7
ESSA 1970 Apr-Jun https://books.google.com/books?id=Hkw4AAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
ESSA 1970 Jul-Sep https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=pst.000072042830&view=1up&seq=3
ESSA 1970 Oct-Dec https://www.google.com/books/edition/Catalog_of_Meteorological_Satellite_Data/r044AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0

ESSA 1971 Jan-Mar https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=pst.000072042854&view=1up&seq=1
ESSA 1971 Apr-Jun https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=pst.000072042861&view=1up&seq=3
ESSA 1971 Jul-Sep https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b3551023&view=1up&seq=7
ESSA 1971 Oct-Dec https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b3551024&view=1up&seq=19

ESSA 1972 Jan-Mar https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b3551026&view=1up&seq=7
ESSA 1972 Apr-Jun https://books.google.com/books?id=Hkw4AAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
ESSA 1972 Jul-Nov https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b3551027&view=1up&seq=1 (final ESSA documentation that was published as ATS satellites took over)

1974; 1978+ GIBBS archive https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/gibbs/
NHC CDMP: Image 1968-83
Papin's site (1980-2009) http://www.atmos.albany.edu/student/ppapin/gridsat.php
IBTrACS (also used in discussion of intense cyclones thread) http://www.atms.unca.edu/ibtracs/ibtracs_v04r00/index.php?name=browse-year-basin
RAMMB (only from official storms) https://rammb-data.cira.colostate.edu/tc_realtime/season.asp?storm_season=2020 2006+
NRL, similar to RAMMB https://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tcdat/ 1997+
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Re: Potentially missed storms: 1967 update

#8 Postby Hammy » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:22 pm

Sources for track. PDFs contained within. All are publicly available and link to NOAA's online library.

CLIQR, where I got the official depression numbers from: http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/research/roth/ebtrk_nhc_final.txt

1967 https://journals.ametsoc.org/mwr/article/97/2/124/98922/VORTICAL-CLOUD-SYSTEMS-OVER-THE-TROPICAL-ATLANTIC (includes satellite)

1967 disturbances https://journals.ametsoc.org/mwr/article/96/4/251/98760/ATLANTIC-TROPICAL-DISTURBANCES-1967?searchresult=1 (includes satellite)
1968 disturbances https://journals.ametsoc.org/mwr/article/97/3/240/98983/ATLANTIC-TROPICAL-DISTURBANCES-OF-1968?searchresult=1 (includes satellite)
1969 disturbances https://journals.ametsoc.org/mwr/article/98/4/307/99114/ATLANTIC-TROPICAL-SYSTEMS-OF-1969?searchresult=1
1970 disturbances https://journals.ametsoc.org/mwr/article/99/4/281/99247/ATLANTIC-TROPICAL-SYSTEMS-OF-1970?searchresult=1
1971 disturbances https://journals.ametsoc.org/mwr/article/100/4/268/60664/Atlantic-Tropical-Systems-of-1971?searchresult=1
1972 disturbances https://journals.ametsoc.org/mwr/article/101/4/334/60986/Atlantic-Tropical-Systems-of-1972?searchresult=1
1973 disturbances https://journals.ametsoc.org/mwr/article/102/4/290/61133/Atlantic-Tropical-Systems-of-1973?searchresult=1
1974 disturbances https://journals.ametsoc.org/mwr/article/103/4/294/61204/Atlantic-Tropical-Systems-of-1974?searchresult=1
1975 disturbances https://journals.ametsoc.org/mwr/article/104/4/466/61334/Atlantic-Tropical-Systems-of-1975?searchresult=1
1976 disturbances https://journals.ametsoc.org/mwr/article/105/5/676/61515/Atlantic-Tropical-Systems-of-1976?searchresult=1
1977 disturbances https://journals.ametsoc.org/mwr/article/106/4/559/61921/Atlantic-Tropical-Systems-of-1977?searchresult=1
1978 disturbances https://journals.ametsoc.org/mwr/article/107/8/1035/62036/Atlantic-Tropical-Systems-of-1978?searchresult=1
1979 disturbances https://journals.ametsoc.org/mwr/article/108/7/966/62212/Atlantic-Tropical-Systems-of-1979?searchresult=1

Unfortunately these were no longer written from 1980 onward.
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Re: Potentially missed storms: updated with track+satellite sources

#9 Postby Ptarmigan » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:52 am

Some of these tropical depressions are long tracked. They had to be tropical storms at some point. I suspect there were more tropical storms in the past.
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Re: Potentially missed storms: updated with track+satellite sources

#10 Postby Hammy » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:50 pm

Ptarmigan wrote:Some of these tropical depressions are long tracked. They had to be tropical storms at some point. I suspect there were more tropical storms in the past.


Based on satellite it seems there were quite a few tropical storms in the 1970s and early 1980s that were tropical depressions in the archives, and the system in 1970 in particular (somebody else linked to it on twitter months back) appears to have not only been a tropical storm much of it's life in the tropical Atlantic, but also reached hurricane intensity on the northern portion near the Azores.

Also I'll likely resume this in a few weeks, compiling all the data from ongoing systems alongside the archiving and a few other projects I was doing got a bit overwhelming.
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