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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3961 Postby ElectricStorm » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:51 pm

GCANE wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
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Actually, for a cold pool, moderate shear enhances convection and helps make it self sustaining.
The pulsing convection is a clear indication that it is cold-pool driven.

Is the CoC still displaced or reforming?


Looks like a high-helicity hot tower just fired with a short duration warm-core future.
Looks like it may be on its way.

I gotta say GCane you sure do know your stuff on here. Thanks for all your input on these storms!
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3962 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:53 pm

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Here we go. . . :eek:
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3963 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:53 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
GCANE wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:

Oh boy, here we go again

People arguing on Eta: :yesno:

'Yes' is saying Eta is displaced to the NW
'No' is saying Eta is stacking up!


According to that thermal profile, it is not yet stacked.
To stack, there needs to be some good high helicity towers / vortical hot towers.

And the CoC to slip back into the cold core

EDIT: UMMMM! I SPOKE TOO SOON! :shocked!:

https://cdn.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/FLOATER/data/AL292020/GEOCOLOR/GOES16-AL292020-GEOCOLOR-1000x1000.gif

Wow, the radial fingers on that is insane.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3964 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:57 pm

Do you think that Eta will regain hurricane strength!? :eek:
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3965 Postby GCANE » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:59 pm

Weather Dude wrote:
GCANE wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:Is the CoC still displaced or reforming?


Looks like a high-helicity hot tower just fired with a short duration warm-core future.
Looks like it may be on its way.

I gotta say GCane you sure do know your stuff on here. Thanks for all your input on these storms!


Much thanks Weather Dude
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3966 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:02 pm

The hot tower had over 80 lightning strikes in 2 hours! Still counting. . .
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3967 Postby crimi481 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:07 pm

Bands are increasing over Florida w coast. Getting weird feeling about all this
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3968 Postby Jr0d » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:08 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Definiately tilted some... however the center is farther east than most are claiming on here..

https://i.ibb.co/fnfRsgt/3.gif


I am thinking tomorrow Key West will be getting outer rain bands. It would not take much of a wobble east for us to get full storm conditions.

The NAM(i know) shows it being too close for comfort to the lower Florida Keys.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3969 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:11 pm

Jr0d wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Definiately tilted some... however the center is farther east than most are claiming on here..

https://i.ibb.co/fnfRsgt/3.gif


I am thinking tomorrow Key West will be getting outer rain bands. It would not take much of a wobble east for us to get full storm conditions.

The NAM(i know) shows it being too close for comfort to the lower Florida Keys.


The mid level gyre Eta is imbedded in has a firm hold and the larger mid level vorticity over south florida is lifting north/nnw which will want to force ETA ENE

I would say if this continues to stay stronger as it is. then east shifts are coming.

https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=r ... =undefined
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3970 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:13 pm

Windy.com Satellite is saying a center reformation with Eta


(200 pages on Eta is next! WOW!)
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3971 Postby aspen » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:16 pm

When is the next recon flight supposed to go out? It’s been like a full 24 hours since the last center fix.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3972 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:23 pm

The CoC is starting to disappear into the convection. . .
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3973 Postby ColdMiser123 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:27 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
Jr0d wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Definiately tilted some... however the center is farther east than most are claiming on here..

https://i.ibb.co/fnfRsgt/3.gif


I am thinking tomorrow Key West will be getting outer rain bands. It would not take much of a wobble east for us to get full storm conditions.

The NAM(i know) shows it being too close for comfort to the lower Florida Keys.


The mid level gyre Eta is imbedded in has a firm hold and the larger mid level vorticity over south florida is lifting north/nnw which will want to force ETA ENE

I would say if this continues to stay stronger as it is. then east shifts are coming.

https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=r ... =undefined


Agree with the bolded, when you look at the steering, a taller vortex will be more impacted by the easterly flow in the upper levels (black box), relative to a more shallow vortex being impacted by just the low-level flow to the north (red box).

Shear will make this tough to fully stay stacked, but periods where this is more stacked could allow for deepening and drifts eastward.

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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3974 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:27 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
Jr0d wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Definiately tilted some... however the center is farther east than most are claiming on here..

https://i.ibb.co/fnfRsgt/3.gif


I am thinking tomorrow Key West will be getting outer rain bands. It would not take much of a wobble east for us to get full storm conditions.

The NAM(i know) shows it being too close for comfort to the lower Florida Keys.


The mid level gyre Eta is imbedded in has a firm hold and the larger mid level vorticity over south florida is lifting north/nnw which will want to force ETA ENE

I would say if this continues to stay stronger as it is. then east shifts are coming.

https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=r ... =undefined

...and look at what's in it's cross hairs... :roll:
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3975 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:31 pm

Cuban radar indicating a Center Reformation
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ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3976 Postby Sanibel » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:35 pm

It just broke loose here with hard sun showers of big drop gusting rain...

Storm clouds in sun with blue sky in between...
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3977 Postby AnnularCane » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:37 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
GCANE wrote:This is the deepest cold pool of the season.
No wonder this is going gangbusters.
Warm core displaced west of the CoC.
Cold pool to the east.
If this stacks, its off to the races.

https://i.imgur.com/JvV6DmY.png



Oh boy, here we go again

People arguing on Eta: :yesno:

'Yes' is saying Eta is displaced to the NW
'No' is saying Eta is stacking up!


Enough to make you wish the storms could talk and just tell us themselves. :wink:
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3978 Postby ConvergenceZone » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:51 pm

I'm waiting for a few of the board posters to say that they still think this will become a hurricane before landfall on the northern gulf states as some were saying a couple of days ago....... :lol:
Water is too cold, too much shear, too much dry air. Depression by landfall.
And thank goodness!!!
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3979 Postby chris_fit » Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:01 pm

So why in hail is recon not out there, nor has it been out there anytime in the last 20+ hours?
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3980 Postby GCANE » Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:06 pm

GoM beginning to see the end of the dry air.

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