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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3201 Postby psyclone » Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:06 pm

I'd be surprised if this storm threatens fl at hurricane intensity. Conditions don't look great and we're a week into November. What might be lacking in strength is destined to be counterbalanced by longevity. this is going to be a marathon event over multiple days. The east coast beaches are going to be brutalized by massive waves and overwash over a long period of time. that's gonna leave a big mark. As will the heavy rain totals. Plus at least some risk of svr wx...again all of this over many days. it looks like a late season subtropical, broad spread out mess...but those have their own threats..especially coastal water action with gales over a massive fetch...
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3202 Postby Jr0d » Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:09 pm

chaser1 wrote:Looks to me as if Eta is now reaching it's peak. Eyewall attempting to form on it's north quad but dry air seems to be decaying convection immediately to the south of center. Tops warming significantly there. I could be wrong and new convective bursting south of center could increase but at this point I'd hedge that Eta will begin to start taking on a more sub-tropical "comma" appearance. That tells me that it's time for lunch :lol:


Convection is definitely waning niw. Highly doubful it will strengthen anymore before hitting Cuba. I was not expecting to go subtropical/hybrid until its approach to Florida.

I still think there will be another window for strengthening after it crosses Cuba and before it goes hybrid, though that may be a bias opinion given it may be a direct hit.

On the flip side, after finding water in my generator's tank, I flushed it out and it is running as expected. My working generator will hopefully act as a deflector shield for Key West.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3203 Postby Weatherboy1 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:16 pm

I think the most likely course of action at 4 pm is:

1. Hurricane watch issued for area that currently has a TS warning
2. TS Warning extended northward to Jupiter Inlet on east coast and comparable location on west coast.

I doubt we see true, sustained, hurricane force winds in the watch area. But think ETA is so close to Cat 1 status there is no harm in hoisting a watch and upgrading to warning later if needed
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3204 Postby CourierPR » Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:36 pm

SouthDadeFish wrote:This dry-air intrusion was anticipated by the models. These same models also show the inner core of Eta moistening by tomorrow morning on approach to FL. This is the same time when shear will temporarily drop to more favorable levels. I could see some last-minute intensification on approach to FL.


Some of the more manic posts telling of Eta's imminent demise don't seem to take this into consideration.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3205 Postby lhpfish » Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:43 pm

Will we see it tighten up as it approaches Cuba’s Coast?
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3206 Postby fci » Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:48 pm

SFLcane wrote:Wxman57 did say a hurricane watch will be hoisted later today. I don’t get it NWS Miami has the Fort Lauderdale area covered in 58-73 yet there is no warning in place? Don’t quite get that.


I think he made that prediction over a day ago.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3207 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:07 pm

Miami nws radar down for maintenance..broward and north use Melbourne, dade and s-sw use key west
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3208 Postby ObsessedMiami » Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:21 pm

jlauderdal wrote:Miami nws radar down for maintenance..broward and north use Melbourne, dade and s-sw use key west

According to RadarScope app, Melbourne is showing RED also, out of service but the app is updating as if those radars were working. Weird
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3209 Postby Blown Away » Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:24 pm

New convection brewing at @20.8N/80W. I would think the LLC is about there?
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#3210 Postby cycloneye » Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:25 pm

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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3211 Postby Cat5James » Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:27 pm

Blown Away wrote:New convection brewing at @20.8N/80W. I would think the LLC is about there?

That’s what I was thinking
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#3212 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:31 pm

ObsessedMiami wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:Miami nws radar down for maintenance..broward and north use Melbourne, dade and s-sw use key west

According to RadarScope app, Melbourne is showing RED also, out of service but the app is updating as if those radars were working. Weird
Yep, it just went down too...key west and tampa it is...nbc6 has their own so get their app
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3213 Postby caneseddy » Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:55 pm

A Hurricane Watch is in effect for the coast of southern Florida
from Deerfield Beach to Bonita Beach, and for the Florida Keys from
Ocean Reef to the Dry Tortugas, including Florida Bay.

From new advisory
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3214 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:57 pm

Wxman57 was on the money.
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#3215 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:59 pm

caneseddy wrote:A Hurricane Watch is in effect for the coast of southern Florida
from Deerfield Beach to Bonita Beach, and for the Florida Keys from
Ocean Reef to the Dry Tortugas, including Florida Bay.


Very aggressive but the modeling supports intensification and the intensity modeling has been on the weaker side of reality this year
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3216 Postby SFLcane » Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:59 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:Wxman57 was on the money.


Yes!!

Hurricane warning is next.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3217 Postby psyclone » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:00 pm

Wow that's very impressive with the hurricane watch. a notch more spicy than i expected
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3218 Postby caneseddy » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:02 pm

Wondering if Wxman secretly works for NHC. Pretty much Beven's discussion mirrors Wxman's explanation earlier about the error in wind speeds and why the watch would be prudent

The new intensity forecast is
increased a bit from the previous forecast to show a 60-kt
intensity at 24 and 36 h. This requires issuing a hurricane watch
for the Florida Keys and portions of south Florida.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3219 Postby Jr0d » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:04 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:Wxman57 was on the money.


He usually is being a pro and all.

A hurricane watch means the Florida Keys must now shut down to tourists if I recall correctly.
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#3220 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:08 pm

Jr0d wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:Wxman57 was on the money.


He usually is being a pro and all.

A hurricane watch means the Florida Keys must now shut down to tourists if I recall correctly.
Hunker in place, its a 1
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