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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2961 Postby SFLcane » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:01 am

Recon going to be interesting if we finally have a well defined llc under that convection if we should start paying attention to the models. I am also pretty sure this is now a TS my guess 45-50 mph.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2962 Postby Cat5James » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:08 am

12Z Guidance is out... northward shift... landfall anywhere from middle Keys to PBC
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2963 Postby aspen » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:16 am

Judging by visible satellite loops, I believe we’re looking at a tilted TC, with Eta’s LLC on the edge of its convective mass and the MLC somewhere within the deepest convection. Just my two cents. We will know within the next hour or so once recon arrives.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2964 Postby SFLcane » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:19 am

Cat5James wrote:12Z Guidance is out... northward shift... landfall anywhere from middle Keys to PBC


Indeed.. consensus tcvn model is now north of official forecast I am expecting a shift north in track at 10am likely.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2966 Postby SFLcane » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:22 am

aspen wrote:Judging by visible satellite loops, I believe we’re looking at a tilted TC, with Eta’s LLC on the edge of its convective mass and the MLC somewhere within the deepest convection. Just my two cents. We will know within the next hour or so once recon arrives.


It’s likely under convection now.

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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2967 Postby Dean4Storms » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:22 am

Definitely looks more organized and the LLC established within the convection. I suspect Recon will find a 50mph TS.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2968 Postby NDG » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:25 am

SFLcane wrote:
aspen wrote:Judging by visible satellite loops, I believe we’re looking at a tilted TC, with Eta’s LLC on the edge of its convective mass and the MLC somewhere within the deepest convection. Just my two cents. We will know within the next hour or so once recon arrives.


It’s likely under convection now.

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That is definitely the LLC, winds have switched from the East over the Cayman Islands, it is much further South and East than estimated at 12z by the NHC.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2969 Postby Blown Away » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:29 am

SFLcane wrote:
Cat5James wrote:12Z Guidance is out... northward shift... landfall anywhere from middle Keys to PBC


Indeed.. consensus tcvn model is now north of official forecast I am expecting a shift north in track at 10am likely.


Eta keeps moving S of the track resulting in a flattening of the turns.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2970 Postby SFLcane » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:34 am

Blown Away wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
Cat5James wrote:12Z Guidance is out... northward shift... landfall anywhere from middle Keys to PBC


Indeed.. consensus tcvn model is now north of official forecast I am expecting a shift north in track at 10am likely.


Eta keeps moving S of the track resulting in a flattening of the turns.


Exactly instead of a sharp turn potentially.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2971 Postby aspen » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:37 am

Recon just found what looks like a circulation WAY outside of the convective mass.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2972 Postby caneseddy » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:38 am

SFLcane wrote:
Blown Away wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
Indeed.. consensus tcvn model is now north of official forecast I am expecting a shift north in track at 10am likely.


Eta keeps moving S of the track resulting in a flattening of the turns.


Exactly instead of a sharp turn potentially.


Wouldn’t that also give it a couple more hours north of Cuba to potentially strengthen a bit more because of the turn being more gradual?
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2973 Postby wxman57 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:39 am

Eta's center may well track just north of the Cayman Islands. Will be close. One thing has been consistent in the models - the environment will be the most favorable for strengthening as Eta nears south Florida Sunday night/Monday morning. Once it moves west of the Peninsula, dry air and wind shear will gradually lead to its demise.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2974 Postby Dean4Storms » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:40 am

aspen wrote:Recon just found what looks like a circulation WAY outside of the convective mass.


Saw that, most likely a vortex rotating around the center to the SE.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2975 Postby SFLcane » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:40 am

wxman57 wrote:Eta's center may well track just north of the Cayman Islands. Will be close. One thing has been consistent in the models - the environment will be the most favorable for strengthening as Eta nears south Florida Sunday night/Monday morning. Once it moves west of the Peninsula, dry air and wind shear will gradually lead to its demise.


Hurricane watch still coming?
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2976 Postby Emmett_Brown » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:41 am

aspen wrote:Recon just found what looks like a circulation WAY outside of the convective mass.


I think there were 2 centers yesterday, perhaps another center is closer to convection? Pressures on the high side with the center they found.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2977 Postby Dean4Storms » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:41 am

wxman57 wrote:Eta's center may well track just north of the Cayman Islands. Will be close. One thing has been consistent in the models - the environment will be the most favorable for strengthening as Eta nears south Florida Sunday night/Monday morning. Once it moves west of the Peninsula, dry air and wind shear will gradually lead to its demise.


Strangely enough the ECM continues to blow it up into a hurricane out west of the Peninsula in the eastern Gulf. It does get nailed eventually by the dry air and becomes much of nothing headed toward the FL Panhandle.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2978 Postby NDG » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:52 am

Recon is already showing that the Eta's center is further south and east than estimated earlier this morning.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2979 Postby wxman57 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:53 am

aspen wrote:Recon just found what looks like a circulation WAY outside of the convective mass.


Not a center. Not part of Eta. Looks like plane is now having communications issues.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2980 Postby Blown Away » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:54 am

wxman57 wrote:Eta's center may well track just north of the Cayman Islands. Will be close. One thing has been consistent in the models - the environment will be the most favorable for strengthening as Eta nears south Florida Sunday night/Monday morning. Once it moves west of the Peninsula, dry air and wind shear will gradually lead to its demise.


Cayman’s are outside of the NHC previous advisory cone, so in the short term Eta is going S and E of the NHC track.
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