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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#941 Postby otowntiger » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:31 pm

Blown Away wrote:


Truly the only analog that looks like the current modeling.
. I dunno- I don’t think Eta will be anywhere near that intense- now track wise it could have some similarities.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#942 Postby VortexFl » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:32 pm

How well has ICON performed with ETA thus far? & which model has done best??
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#943 Postby gatorcane » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:35 pm

wonder what the happy hour GFS has in store? It is running now.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#944 Postby Blown Away » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:38 pm



18z a little faster than 12z... Seems the trend is moving Eta faster to the NE after exiting Honduras then turning NNW near/over Florida... Except for the mighty Euro which is slower and usually faster than most models...
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#945 Postby otowntiger » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:42 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
Blown Away wrote:https://i.imgur.com/cG4w6fU.jpg
Coamps showing an intensifying hurricane moving towards Cuba/FL.

Looks to be weakening from Cat.3 to Cat.2?
yeah- I noticed the same thing- it went down from a 3 to a 2 on approach to Cuba. I’d be surprised if it got anywhere near that strong after nearly dissipating over Honduras.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#946 Postby VortexFl » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:48 pm

Snipet from NWS Miami afternoon disco:

"East Coast 7-10" of rain localized amounts up to 15"


.Hydrology...
The long range models are also showing that the PWAT values will
be in the 2.1 to 2.4 inches range which is at the maximum value
for the PWAT values for this time of Year. This means that any
showers and thunderstorms that do develop will be capable of
producing heavy rainfall this weekend. Weather Prediction Center
(WPC) is also forecasting at this time around 3 to 5 inches for
the west coast metro areas to 7 to 10 inches for the east coast
metro areas with isolated amounts up to 15 inches mainly between
Friday early next week. Will continue to monitor the the forecast
model runs on the potential of heavy rainfall for South Florida
this weekend, and if trends continue then a Flood Watch may be
needed late this week for this weekend.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#947 Postby Spacecoast » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:48 pm

18z Spaghetti includes GEFS, Euro Ens, early guidance, and deterministic plots.

white is consensus, black dot is 120 hr ,which is very close to NHC guidance @ 1pm Sunday (just E of Marathon).
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#948 Postby Blown Away » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:51 pm

otowntiger wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:
Blown Away wrote:https://i.imgur.com/cG4w6fU.jpg
Coamps showing an intensifying hurricane moving towards Cuba/FL.

Looks to be weakening from Cat.3 to Cat.2?
yeah- I noticed the same thing- it went down from a 3 to a 2 on approach to Cuba. I’d be surprised if it got anywhere near that strong after nearly dissipating over Honduras.


It goes from a 3 to a 2, but notice the green shading on the second Cat 2 dot is lighter green which I think indicates a strengthening Cat 2...
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#949 Postby SouthFLTropics » Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:07 pm

18z GFS slower than 12z, more in line with what the Euro was showing through 114 hours so far.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#950 Postby gatorcane » Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:09 pm

Heavily sheared with most activity over the Bahamas:

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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#951 Postby SouthFLTropics » Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:10 pm

Ironically, these 18z GFS is starting to look like the GFS-Para run the other day that had "twins".
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#952 Postby tomatkins » Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:13 pm

otowntiger wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:
Blown Away wrote:https://i.imgur.com/cG4w6fU.jpg
Coamps showing an intensifying hurricane moving towards Cuba/FL.

Looks to be weakening from Cat.3 to Cat.2?
yeah- I noticed the same thing- it went down from a 3 to a 2 on approach to Cuba. I’d be surprised if it got anywhere near that strong after nearly dissipating over Honduras.

Who knows. Two days ago the GFS had Eta landfalling in Nicaragua as a Cat 1. The key is - do they have a storm in the region, and is there any obvious reason (sheer, cooler water, dry air, etc) that it shouldnt just keep strengthening once is gets its act togehter.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#953 Postby LarryWx » Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:27 pm

Blown Away wrote:


18z a little faster than 12z... Seems the trend is moving Eta faster to the NE after exiting Honduras then turning NNW near/over Florida... Except for the mighty Euro which is slower and usually faster than most models...


Also, except for the sometimes considered semi-mighty UKMET, which still goes into the E Pac!
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#954 Postby Blown Away » Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:25 pm

As these models close in on 5 day range it looks like a big sheared frontal mess that will dump boat loads of rain on Florida ATM.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#955 Postby robbielyn » Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:47 pm

Blown Away wrote:As these models close in on 5 day range it looks like a big sheared frontal mess that will dump boat loads of rain on Florida ATM.

a sheared mess is awesome! flooding not of course but less wind damage and not hardly any surge we’ll take it over a hurricane any day. i wish it would go out to sea though. i’m so ready for winter and i hate the cold but this season is long and arduous.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#956 Postby Spacecoast » Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:35 pm

0z Intensity guidance...
CEM2 shoots the Yuc channel, and avoids land interaction going to CAT3
SHIP, & CTCI (NRL-COAMPS 5km model), are slow movers, bringing to CAT1 /CAT2 level.
HWFI weakens as it travels up FL spine.
COTI & UKX2 are EPAC regeneration.

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Chart is better understood when considering tracks of these models:
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#957 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:03 pm

Blown Away wrote:As these models close in on 5 day range it looks like a big sheared frontal mess that will dump boat loads of rain on Florida ATM.

Probably another Irene 1999. Nothing to loose sleep over. Just more rain for the water logged South Florida.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#958 Postby Blown Away » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:32 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
Blown Away wrote:As these models close in on 5 day range it looks like a big sheared frontal mess that will dump boat loads of rain on Florida ATM.

Probably another Irene 1999. Nothing to loose sleep over. Just more rain for the water logged South Florida.


Yeah, I think once Eta gets up near Florida it will likely be heavily R sided with the convection, so whoever is on the R side of Eta could see huge rainfall.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#959 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:55 pm

Blown Away wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:
Blown Away wrote:As these models close in on 5 day range it looks like a big sheared frontal mess that will dump boat loads of rain on Florida ATM.

Probably another Irene 1999. Nothing to loose sleep over. Just more rain for the water logged South Florida.


Yeah, I think once Eta gets up near Florida it will likely be heavily R sided with the convection, so whoever is on the R side of Eta could see huge rainfall.

Levi Cowan said in his latest video tonight that the upper level pattern doesn’t support a strong hurricane like what the Euro was showing yesterday. In fact it will likely take on a more comma/Subtropical look.

https://youtu.be/20PM4mY4fso
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#960 Postby StAuggy » Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:18 am

TheStormExpert wrote:Who wants to place a bet! Left, right, or over the peninsula? :lol:


Maybe this is how Georgia gets a super rare coastal landfall
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