Trough of low pressure in Western Caribbean (Is Invest 95L)

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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#281 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:55 am

blp wrote:Here are the tracks for the Euro. As was mentioned does have more activity and some stronger runs. Also, further west with most of the tracks. Interesting that some of the tracks originate from South Caribbean and some from NW Caribbean.

12z
https://i.ibb.co/sFSSmx8/ecens-2020-10-15-12-Z-240-30-292-262-03-12-92-293-573-MSLP-Surface-tracks-lows.png

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https://i.ibb.co/jz0hQkk/ecens-2020-10-16-00-Z-240-30-292-262-03-12-92-293-573-MSLP-Surface-tracks-lows.png

Further west? Looks east of the recent 06z GEFS Ensembles.
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#282 Postby underthwx » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:08 am

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Yeeted Zeta west?.......what is yeeted?...


Yeet, as best I can tell, means something like eject.

GFS-P is definitely in love with the idea that this storm gets left behind by the front and then moves west into the gulf before turning back east and getting caught by the next front.

It's a Gen Z term, I know since, well...


I'm Gen Z and use it a lot... lol.


Man, I suddenly feel old, I thought I was more hip than that...
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#283 Postby gfsperpendicular » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:18 am

GFS para has been very consistent with this weird looping solution. If it verifies it would be a massive coup. It would also be one of the strangest tracks in recent memory. So I wouldn't bet on it :lol:
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#284 Postby tomatkins » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:20 am

tomatkins wrote:
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Haha, same. I was like 'Wow this actually looks like a realistic run for once GFS-Para good jo- *270 hours frame shows up* wait, hold up what are you doing?!".


Yeeted Zeta west?.......what is yeeted?...


Yeet, as best I can tell, means something like eject.

GFS-P is definitely in love with the idea that this storm gets left behind by the front and then moves west into the gulf before turning back east and getting caught by the next front.
Well not this time, runs it all the way up to Houston before it turns around.
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#285 Postby underthwx » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:23 am

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Yeeted Zeta west?.......what is yeeted?...


Yeet, as best I can tell, means something like eject.

GFS-P is definitely in love with the idea that this storm gets left behind by the front and then moves west into the gulf before turning back east and getting caught by the next front.
Well not this time, runs it all the way up to Houston before it turns around.


Bite your tongue..don't jinx us over on the west side....l o l
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#286 Postby underthwx » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:25 am

Which model(s) are the ones to watch on this system?
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#287 Postby aspen » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:27 am

Every single run, the GFS-Para is determined to make Zeta one of if not the highest October ACE maker in history. That’s nearly a full week as a major hurricane — easily 30-40+ ACE despite not getting down into the 920s like yesterday’s runs.
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#288 Postby kevin » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:29 am

aspen wrote:Every single run, the GFS-Para is determined to make Zeta one of if not the highest October ACE maker in history. That’s nearly a full week as a major hurricane — easily 30-40+ ACE despite not getting down into the 920s like yesterday’s runs.


It's almost like 2020 saw the 'Will 2020 reach hyperactive status in terms of ACE?' thread and said challenge accepted.
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#289 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:30 am

aspen wrote:Every single run, the GFS-Para is determined to make Zeta one of if not the highest October ACE maker in history. That’s nearly a full week as a major hurricane — easily 30-40+ ACE despite not getting down into the 920s like yesterday’s runs.

I know there’s still some high OHC down in the Western Caribbean but I believe the GFS-P is on crack! :lol:

Though time will tell if conditions are favorable enough for an intense hurricane down there. We already saw Delta rapidly intensify to Cat.4 strength in that region.
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#290 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:31 am

kevin wrote:
aspen wrote:Every single run, the GFS-Para is determined to make Zeta one of if not the highest October ACE maker in history. That’s nearly a full week as a major hurricane — easily 30-40+ ACE despite not getting down into the 920s like yesterday’s runs.


It's almost like 2020 saw the 'Will 2020 reach hyperactive status in terms of ACE?' thread and said challenge accepted.

Does 968 convert to 920's? Because... that's what I saw on GFS 2.0
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#291 Postby underthwx » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:35 am

aspen wrote:Every single run, the GFS-Para is determined to make Zeta one of if not the highest October ACE maker in history. That’s nearly a full week as a major hurricane — easily 30-40+ ACE despite not getting down into the 920s like yesterday’s runs.



That is unsettling...I'm not picking on you Aspen, but can you explain what the GFS para is please?
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#292 Postby kevin » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:36 am

AutoPenalti wrote:
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aspen wrote:Every single run, the GFS-Para is determined to make Zeta one of if not the highest October ACE maker in history. That’s nearly a full week as a major hurricane — easily 30-40+ ACE despite not getting down into the 920s like yesterday’s runs.


It's almost like 2020 saw the 'Will 2020 reach hyperactive status in terms of ACE?' thread and said challenge accepted.

Does 968 convert to 920's? Because... that's what I saw on GFS 2.0


You should probably ask aspen instead of me, but maybe he refers to yesterday's 18z GFS-Para run which had 929 mbar, but that one slammed into Central America so it doesn't have as long of a lifetime as some of the other runs. Maybe he means the 06z run from yesterday which had a peak of 934 mbar before reaching Cuba.
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#293 Postby aspen » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:43 am

underthwx wrote:
aspen wrote:Every single run, the GFS-Para is determined to make Zeta one of if not the highest October ACE maker in history. That’s nearly a full week as a major hurricane — easily 30-40+ ACE despite not getting down into the 920s like yesterday’s runs.



That is unsettling...I'm not picking on you Aspen, but can you explain what the GFS para is please?

To put it simply, it’s a new version of the GFS model.
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#294 Postby tomatkins » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:45 am

underthwx wrote:
aspen wrote:Every single run, the GFS-Para is determined to make Zeta one of if not the highest October ACE maker in history. That’s nearly a full week as a major hurricane — easily 30-40+ ACE despite not getting down into the 920s like yesterday’s runs.



That is unsettling...I'm not picking on you Aspen, but can you explain what the GFS para is please?

The GFS has an operational version - the normal GFS. But at the same time, they are always upgrading it. The GFS parallel, to my understanding is the next upgrade candidate in line. A year or two ago they did a complete overhaul, and so they started offering the public model data from both the current and new versions in parallel. And apparently they decided to continue with that as they make smaller upgrades.

IN theory the new version should be better than the current version - its supposed to be an upgrade after all. But it might be better in some ways (maybe it diagnoses the 500 mb heights better) and worse in others (too rapid in cyclogenesis).

Either way, its basically just another model to throw on the pile, with its own biases, and such.
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#295 Postby toad strangler » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:45 am

LOL the Para sends a Cyclone to the TX coast on NOVEMBER 1st :spam:
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#296 Postby ElectricStorm » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:22 am

AutoPenalti wrote:
tomatkins wrote:
underthwx wrote:
Yeeted Zeta west?.......what is yeeted?...


Yeet, as best I can tell, means something like eject.

GFS-P is definitely in love with the idea that this storm gets left behind by the front and then moves west into the gulf before turning back east and getting caught by the next front.

It's a Gen Z term, I know since, well...


I'm Gen Z and use it a lot... lol.

Same here... Lol
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#297 Postby SFLcane » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:33 am

Would like to here wxman57’s recent thoughts on this system.
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#298 Postby CourierPR » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:39 am

SFLcane wrote:Would like to here wxman57’s recent thoughts on this system.


Yes, and where is Aric Dunn?
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#299 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:39 am

SFLcane wrote:Would like to here wxman57’s recent thoughts on this system.

Isn't he in Disney?
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#300 Postby SFLcane » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:42 am

AutoPenalti wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Would like to here wxman57’s recent thoughts on this system.

Isn't he in Disney?


Lol I think so. Either way the gfs is rolling. Will it continue shifting westward?
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