Trough of low pressure in Western Caribbean (Is Invest 95L)

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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#101 Postby aspen » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:45 am

Model results for Zeta are likely to become way more variable now that most models have picked up on the likelihood of Epsilon developing. We’ll need to wait for Epsilon to develop this weekend to have a better idea on how it would weaken the ridge and/or influence Zeta.
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#102 Postby SFLcane » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:47 am

12z Canadian... :eek:

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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#103 Postby aspen » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:47 am

Someone please explain how the 12z ICON develops Zeta in the SE Gulf.
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#104 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:51 am

This thread about to drop dead in a couple of minutes...
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#105 Postby CourierPR » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:51 am

gatorcane wrote:This is the farthest east run yet, encouraging run for us in Florida


If it were to verify, and that is highly questionable at this point.
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#106 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:52 am

aspen wrote:Someone please explain how the 12z ICON develops Zeta in the SE Gulf.

The ICON is a lost cause!
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#107 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:55 am

gatorcane wrote:This is the farthest east run yet, encouraging run for us in Florida:

https://i.postimg.cc/Qdpw3skv/gfs-mslp-pcpn-watl-fh168-264.gif

Most runs have been this far east, but the GFS has been MOSTLY consistent on a storm or hurricane ejecting NE across East or Central Cuba. Last nights 18z run was an outlier. Having a -NAO lends this more credence in my opinion.
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#108 Postby underthwx » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:55 am

I feel that this system is definitely something to watch in the coming days, if I lived in Florida. Wouldn't a system that forms down there, track towards Florida, perhaps influenced by a front?
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#109 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:59 am

underthwx wrote:I feel that this system is definitely something to watch in the coming days, if I lived in Florida. Wouldn't a system that forms down there, track towards Florida, perhaps influenced by a front?

Unless it can get into the the far NW Caribbean before ejecting NE and threat to Florida seems limited. Besides the North Atlantic Oscillation is negative as I’ve been saying so an escape route through Cuba and The Bahamas seems more plausible. We’re also more likely today than a few days ago to have a weakness form thanks to the Subtropical area that could grab the name Epsilon.
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#110 Postby psyclone » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:00 pm

A late season storm missing florida to the east and south is very common (think Michelle 2001). From the start I have suspected that any risk to the state is more likely to be weighted south and east...but the higher risk is likely to reside east and south of the state. We shall see but that is definitely an option. Post Delta... it's become easy to not worry so much about cane season unless and until there is compelling evidence to the contrary. So far that philosophy is working nicely but we will keep checking in.
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#111 Postby Loveweather12 » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:02 pm

You know I’m going to laugh if this storm moves closer or threatens FL & I live in FL. The way most on here are discounting a storm & telling people to come back in June when a Low hasn’t even formed yet frankly surprises me seeing the seniority on This page. Shouldn’t we know by now that storms & models change drastically. Wow.. we can’t let our guard down. Keep saying the so called shields are up & watch a hurricane make landfall in places some are saying won’t happen forever. Wow I’m shocked but maybe it’s just me.
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#112 Postby HurricaneEnzo » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:03 pm

aspen wrote:Someone please explain how the 12z ICON develops Zeta in the SE Gulf.


The answer is in the question :lol: :lol: :lol: ICON is trash
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#113 Postby blp » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:12 pm

I think the CMC is the most reasonable. I think GFS is ramping it up too quickly.

12z GEFS trending weaker and more west.

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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#114 Postby CourierPR » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:21 pm

Loveweather12 wrote:You know I’m going to laugh if this storm moves closer or threatens FL & I live in FL. The way most on here are discounting a storm & telling people to come back in June when a Low hasn’t even formed yet frankly surprises me seeing the seniority on This page. Shouldn’t we know by now that storms & models change drastically. Wow.. we can’t let our guard down. Keep saying the so called shields are up & watch a hurricane make landfall in places some are saying won’t happen forever. Wow I’m shocked but maybe it’s just me.


I agree with you. Here we are on the 15th with some predicting a clear miss for Florida from a storm that hasn't formed yet but may form around the 19th or 20th. This and the overuse of the word "bury" boggles my mind.
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#115 Postby chris_fit » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:29 pm

Anyone's Game. Operational is E of the mean by far.

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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#116 Postby Craters » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:33 pm

chris_fit wrote:What kind if Witchcraft Sorcery Bullcrap is this?

https://i.imgur.com/0MIWjKq.gif

That track reminds me of the flying saucer pushing the Washington Monument around in "Mars Attacks!" :lol:
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#117 Postby plasticup » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:35 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:This thread about to drop dead in a couple of minutes...


What do you mean?
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#118 Postby cycloneye » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:42 pm

2 PM TWO:

A broad area of low pressure could form by early next week over
the southwestern Caribbean Sea. Some gradual development of the
system will be possible thereafter while it moves slowly
northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#119 Postby ronjon » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:42 pm

HurricaneEnzo wrote:
aspen wrote:Someone please explain how the 12z ICON develops Zeta in the SE Gulf.


The answer is in the question :lol: :lol: :lol: ICON is trash


Its develops it from 93L.
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Re: Possible SW Caribbean Development

#120 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:46 pm

plasticup wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:This thread about to drop dead in a couple of minutes...


What do you mean?

Check the posts above you. The same people seem to reiterate the same thing. Can't verify something that isn't there yet, hell, even the upper level environment isn't set in stone.. We are just gambling at this point but normally when the threat to Florida is "off", or when people are "breathing a sigh of relief" we get that drop in attention.
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