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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#341 Postby Frank P » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:31 am

06z HMON h90 Cat 3 SELA Friday, slight shift west
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#342 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:37 am

Hwrf shifted west also
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#343 Postby Nimbus » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:42 am

stormlover2013 wrote:Hwrf shifted west also

With trough shear near lanfall dropping Delta to Cat 2
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#344 Postby Shell Mound » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:42 am

NDG wrote:Here we go again with the Euro ensembles, I am sure is going to make people in TX nervous again like it did with Laura. Don't buy into them, at least not yet.

https://i.imgur.com/mnvbDH3.png

The EPS is typically biased to the west with systems curving into the mid-latitudes, so landfall would be likely closer to Franklin–Morgan City vs. Cameron.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#345 Postby Frank P » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:42 am

stormlover2013 wrote:Hwrf shifted west also

HWRF h96 slower too landfall Sat
https://imgur.com/a/Kydvqd2
https://imgur.com/a/scWqU1y
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#346 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:43 am

Shell Mound wrote:
NDG wrote:Here we go again with the Euro ensembles, I am sure is going to make people in TX nervous again like it did with Laura. Don't buy into them, at least not yet.

https://i.imgur.com/mnvbDH3.png

The EPS is typically biased to the west with systems curving into the mid-latitudes, so landfall would be likely closer to Franklin–Morgan City vs. Cameron.


Euro has struggled all year heck all models have, maybe euro gets this one right but prob not but who knows
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#347 Postby NDG » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:48 am

stormlover2013 wrote:
Shell Mound wrote:
NDG wrote:Here we go again with the Euro ensembles, I am sure is going to make people in TX nervous again like it did with Laura. Don't buy into them, at least not yet.

https://i.imgur.com/mnvbDH3.png

The EPS is typically biased to the west with systems curving into the mid-latitudes, so landfall would be likely closer to Franklin–Morgan City vs. Cameron.


Euro has struggled all year heck all models have, maybe euro gets this one right but prob not but who knows


Yep, the Euro has definitely lost its crown this year. It is now nothing but another model to consider into a final solution but not with the weight it used to have in years past. Sometimes in the very short term it has done well with systems this year.
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#348 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:51 am

But maybe it’s on to something now who knows it’s 2020
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#349 Postby LowerAlabamaTider » Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:04 am

stormlover2013 wrote:But maybe it’s on to something now who knows it’s 2020


Maybe . . . One thing is for sure, and that is once again an awful long stretch of coastline is on their toes watching another hurricane wondering where it will end up. These things will definitely age you way before your time!
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#350 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:12 am

06 euro running now
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#351 Postby LowerAlabamaTider » Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:23 am

stormlover2013 wrote:06 euro running now


Didn't last Euro run have Delta making landfall in basically the same area as Laura? Geez they surely don't need anything like that!!! :cry:
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#352 Postby SoupBone » Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:29 am

NDG wrote:Here we go again with the Euro ensembles, I am sure is going to make people in TX nervous again like it did with Laura. Don't buy into them, at least not yet.

https://i.imgur.com/mnvbDH3.png


I'm sorry brother but there's no reason not to. The trend has been west, west, west. Texas is definitely in play now. This is not like Laura with the east then west flip flops.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#353 Postby NDG » Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:49 am

SoupBone wrote:
NDG wrote:Here we go again with the Euro ensembles, I am sure is going to make people in TX nervous again like it did with Laura. Don't buy into them, at least not yet.

https://i.imgur.com/mnvbDH3.png


I'm sorry brother but there's no reason not to. The trend has been west, west, west. Texas is definitely in play now. This is not like Laura with the east then west flip flops.


The much trusted pack still don't agree with the Euro unless the trends continue west during the day today.


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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#354 Postby NDG » Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:52 am

The westward shift by the Euro ensembles has stopped, at least for now.

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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#355 Postby South Texas Storms » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:11 am

SoupBone wrote:
NDG wrote:Here we go again with the Euro ensembles, I am sure is going to make people in TX nervous again like it did with Laura. Don't buy into them, at least not yet.

https://i.imgur.com/mnvbDH3.png


I'm sorry brother but there's no reason not to. The trend has been west, west, west. Texas is definitely in play now. This is not like Laura with the east then west flip flops.


I'm not worried here in Houston about this storm. The Euro has had a significant west bias especially this year. Until the other models besides the GFS-Para show a TX threat, I won't be too concerned about us. I do worry though for our neighbors in LA. They do not need another hurricane this year.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#356 Postby USTropics » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:15 am

Here is the entire 06z ECMWF run, remains on the western side of the guidance envelope:

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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#357 Postby NDG » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:26 am

USTropics wrote:Here is the entire 06z ECMWF run, remains on the western side of the guidance envelope:

https://i.ibb.co/mqPjCfy/9-km-ECMWF-Global-00z-12z-3-Hourly-Gulf-of-Mexico-850-h-Pa-Rel-Vorticity.gif


At least a good illustration on how Gamma's remnants will be absorbed by Delta.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#358 Postby Steve » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:48 am

NAM 12km @ 75h is heading for Morgan City as a weakening 970's system (Cat 2 probably). Majority of the rain is offshore through that point.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0612&fh=75
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#359 Postby Steve » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:50 am

NAM 3km has it at 912mb at 60 hours. Haha. I don't think there's a chance in hell we will have a sub 920 storm in 60 hours (maybe before that, but not at 60). It's always good for entertainment value though. I promise that if this happens, the next 10 times I was going to say, "but it's the NAM", I'll replace that with "Why yes. It's the NAM."

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0612&fh=60
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#360 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:53 am

Steve wrote:NAM 3km has it at 912mb at 60 hours. Haha. I don't think there's a chance in hell we will have a sub 920 storm in 60 hours (maybe before that, but not at 60). It's always good for entertainment value though. I promise that if this happens, the next 10 times I was going to say, "but it's the NAM", I'll replace that with "Why yes. It's the NAM."

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0612&fh=60



we all know the nam this far out is way wrong.
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