ATL: SALLY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1141 Postby Shell Mound » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:05 am

xironman wrote:
Airboy wrote:Dropsonde just a bit west of the center
998mb (29.47 inHg) Surface (Sea Level) 28.2°C (82.8°F) 27.0°C (81°F) 20° (from the NNE) 21 knots (24 mph)

2mb lower than the extrap.

 https://twitter.com/stormtrackr64/status/1305113962913161216


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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1142 Postby DestinHurricane » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:07 am

Kristymac03 wrote:Do you think the track is pretty set in stone. I understand a wobble 50 miles either way can be significant but for those of us in extreme NW FL... the threat seems to be rain at this point?


It's under 3 days now, it's pretty much set in stone. Panhandle will not have significant impacts.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1143 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:20 am

Javlin wrote:


When he talks I am listening!


Smart guy to be certain but in the comments he himself seems to have failed to identify the anticyclone that's about to aid Sally.

We all can't be flawless.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1144 Postby aspen » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:22 am

How much Sally is able to organize herself today and how quickly she stacks will determine how strong she gets before landfall. If the LLC and MLC stack quicker by this afternoon or tonight, a Cat 2/3 is on the table. If the centers stack really late, she might never become a hurricane. Timing is critical when a storm like this is mere days from landfall.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1145 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:27 am

aspen wrote:How much Sally is able to organize herself today and how quickly she stacks will determine how strong she gets before landfall. If the LLC and MLC stack quicker by this afternoon or tonight, a Cat 2/3 is on the table. If the centers stack really late, she might never become a hurricane. Timing is critical when a storm like this is mere days from landfall.


A cat 2 should come to fruition at this stage. I hardly believe that is a "worse case scenario" right now personally. Could it be the most realistic? Yeah, I would think so. I certainly hope we don't see a cat 3/4 monster breaking ashore.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1146 Postby MidnightRain » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:32 am

DestinHurricane wrote:
Kristymac03 wrote:Do you think the track is pretty set in stone. I understand a wobble 50 miles either way can be significant but for those of us in extreme NW FL... the threat seems to be rain at this point?


It's under 3 days now, it's pretty much set in stone. Panhandle will not have significant impacts.

Even with a Louisiana landfall, extreme NW Florida will still be on the northeast side. Minor storm surge, flooding rain and enough wind to cause some power outages is likely. The effects go up if it hits more towards MS.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1147 Postby GCANE » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:39 am

Poleward outflow channel becoming apparent as the ULL is being taken out.

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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1148 Postby Blow_Hard » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:39 am

DestinHurricane wrote:
Kristymac03 wrote:Do you think the track is pretty set in stone. I understand a wobble 50 miles either way can be significant but for those of us in extreme NW FL... the threat seems to be rain at this point?


It's under 3 days now, it's pretty much set in stone. Panhandle will not have significant impacts.



If you can withstand 10-20mph wind and some heavy downpours here and there you should be good to go here in the Panhandle (with the exception of Escambia County). Watching from a distance and really hoping SE LA and MS Gulf Coasters are not facing a MH.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1149 Postby GCANE » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:41 am

62 knot FL @ 850 mb
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1150 Postby 3090 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:43 am

PavelGaborik10 wrote:
aspen wrote:How much Sally is able to organize herself today and how quickly she stacks will determine how strong she gets before landfall. If the LLC and MLC stack quicker by this afternoon or tonight, a Cat 2/3 is on the table. If the centers stack really late, she might never become a hurricane. Timing is critical when a storm like this is mere days from landfall.


A cat 2 should come to fruition at this stage. I hardly believe that is a "worse case scenario" right now personally. Could it be the most realistic? Yeah, I would think so. I certainly hope we don't see a cat 3/4 monster breaking ashore.


The issue is, it will be on the upswing in intensity. And that is really a problem for incoming systems cause you do not know how intense of a system you will end up with.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1151 Postby Shell Mound » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:45 am

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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1152 Postby ronjon » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:48 am

aspen wrote:How much Sally is able to organize herself today and how quickly she stacks will determine how strong she gets before landfall. If the LLC and MLC stack quicker by this afternoon or tonight, a Cat 2/3 is on the table. If the centers stack really late, she might never become a hurricane. Timing is critical when a storm like this is mere days from landfall.


It's interesting that the latest HWRF 06z run has backed way off on intensity. This might be a sign that the storm might not rapidly deepen per earlier runs. Or its simply a one off run. 12z suite today will be crucial.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1153 Postby GCANE » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:52 am

Just looking thru sounder imagery.
Seeing a very significant cold pool at 550 mb, 10 hrs ago.
Once the warm core gels above this, this could be big.

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#1154 Postby TheStormExpert » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:53 am

Maybe the 06z HWRF lends more credence as Sally is still looking like a hot mess this morning.

 https://twitter.com/tarcweather/status/1305121401628774400


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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1155 Postby Do_For_Love » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:54 am

Wow, looks the like the NHC is feeling more bullish about the intensity this morning - I didn't expect to see 100 MPH predicted. This is a pretty bad situation, between that, the predicted storm surge, and the projected stalling out that will cause a lot of flooding. The stalling out effect is something we are seeing more of it seems and it really sucks. These rainfall total projections are ridiculous.

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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1156 Postby ronjon » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:57 am

Not sure the upper level anticyclone is in an ideal position for Sally to rapidly strengthen. The storm has consistently battled NW shear that won't really allow the storm to vertically stack.
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#1157 Postby shiny-pebble » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:58 am

TheStormExpert wrote:Maybe the 06z HWRF lends more credence as Sally is still looking like a hot mess this morning.

 https://twitter.com/tarcweather/status/1305121401628774400


Didn't you link a tweet an hour ago saying to not discount a significant hurricane even if it doesn't intensify much today??

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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1158 Postby storm4u » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:59 am

6z HMON looks to be maybe a cat 2 or so. Today will be important
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1159 Postby storm4u » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:02 am

6z HWRF is at 998mb in 15 hours it's already 998mb.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1160 Postby MississippiWx » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:04 am

The HWRF has been so consistent with this becoming a formidable hurricane. Sometimes, it will have one wacky run and go back to what it was originally showing. We will find out in a few hours if it has truly changed its tone to a weaker system.
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