Will TD10 be upgraded to a tropical storm in post-analysis?

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Will TD10 be upgraded to a tropical storm in post-analysis?

#1 Postby Ryxn » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:37 pm

If upgraded, it will be referred to as Unnamed Tropical Storm as names can't be shifted. I recall it may have briefly peaked at 35kt for a few hours between advisories. Thoughts?
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Re: Will TD10 be upgraded to a tropical storm in post-analysis?

#2 Postby ClarCari » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:39 pm

User Hammy just made another thread for missed storms in General and that might be a better place to put this in. She might’ve even had TD 10 in mind when she made it.

PS. To answer your question; it would just simply be listed as an unnamed TS without a number, similar to the unnamed SS in 2005 before Tammy.
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Re: Will TD10 be upgraded to a tropical storm in post-analysis?

#3 Postby Ryxn » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:50 pm

ClarCari wrote:User Hammy just made another thread for missed storms in General and that might be a better place to put this in. She might’ve even had TD 10 in mind when she made it.

PS. To answer your question; it would just simply be listed as an unnamed TS without a number, similar to the unnamed SS in 2005 before Tammy.


Haha thanks! I reread the TD10 thread and it mentioned the last TD to TS upgrade happened in 1988 so I wanted to see if it was a numbered tropical storm like I thought it would be, but it wasn't, it was what you said, so I corrected myself based on the 1988 season. I was under the impression it would only be referred to as an unnamed TS if it went unnoticed in the season until post analysis because there can't be a TD-20.5 between Stan and Tammy in 2005. TS10 made sense to me since it was already numbered. But I stood corrected. I still think Tropical Storm Ten sounds better but unnamed TS is more consistent for post-analysis. Anyways this thread can be locked if need be and be discussed in the other thread. Cheers!
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Re: Will TD10 be upgraded to a tropical storm in post-analysis?

#4 Postby Hammy » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:44 pm

It's missed storm thread is generally potential TD's and TC's that may have been missed entirely though there are plenty of TD's that could be upgraded and there's no 'rules' so to speak if anybody else wants to add anything, though I'll generally go year to year as I move the data off the computer. I don't see a reason to lock this thread as it's a current event of sorts (being from this year) and my yearly data isn't compiled until the post reports come out, so the thread will likely go to 2019 moving and sorting the data ends up taking half a year. :D

Regarding TD10 there's probably a 50/50 chance it gets upgraded (NHC doesn't do that often) though I personally think there's enough data to suggest it should be upgraded to a TS in post analysis.
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Re: Will TD10 be upgraded to a tropical storm in post-analysis?

#5 Postby Fancy1001 » Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:01 pm

ClarCari wrote:User Hammy just made another thread for missed storms in General and that might be a better place to put this in. She might’ve even had TD 10 in mind when she made it.

PS. To answer your question; it would just simply be listed as an unnamed TS without a number, similar to the unnamed SS in 2005 before Tammy.

I wish it had been named so that Wilma would have been named Alpha instead.
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Re: Will TD10 be upgraded to a tropical storm in post-analysis?

#6 Postby gfsperpendicular » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:44 am

I have no idea about the actual question at hand here. But would it be called "Unnamed Tropical Storm" or "Tropical Storm Ten" if it were upgraded?
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Re: Will TD10 be upgraded to a tropical storm in post-analysis?

#7 Postby SconnieCane » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:53 am

I'd just call it "Thank God It Didn't Burn Yet Another Name Before the Real Meat of the Season Arrived." :lol:
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Re: Will TD10 be upgraded to a tropical storm in post-analysis?

#8 Postby Ryxn » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:10 am

SconnieCane wrote:I'd just call it "Thank God It Didn't Burn Yet Another Name Before the Real Meat of the Season Arrived." :lol:


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Re: Will TD10 be upgraded to a tropical storm in post-analysis?

#9 Postby Ryxn » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:11 am

gfsperpendicular wrote:I have no idea about the actual question at hand here. But would it be called "Unnamed Tropical Storm" or "Tropical Storm Ten" if it were upgraded?


Unnamed Tropical Storm
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Re: Will TD10 be upgraded to a tropical storm in post-analysis?

#10 Postby CyclonicFury » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:55 am

I'd be somewhat surprised, but it has a case.

ASCAT did indicate maximum sustained winds near 35 kt around 00:00 UTC August 1, but this 35 kt estimate may have been rain contaminated. In addition, Dvorak estimates from TAFB and SAB did not support tropical storm strength. I think, though, that TD 10 may have formed much earlier than when advisories were initiated - possibly as soon as 12z on July 30th. ASCAT data around that time showed a well-defined circulation, though convection pulsed up and down throughout the day.
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Re: Will TD10 be upgraded to a tropical storm in post-analysis?

#11 Postby EquusStorm » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:46 am

At the very least I think the track gets extended a day or so earlier. There's evidence of a brief tropical storm peak but unless the evidence is truly overwhelming I think they might just keep it a TD with a note in the TCR that says it could have been a tropical storm. I think 35kt is probably justified but NHC is pretty careful and conservative when upgrading so not sure if they would go that far.
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